Grass Eaters And Mgtow - Long Term Economic Implications

[Randolph Kinney]

If you normalize population to GDP, you find an interesting correlation with birth rate. So as Europe, Japan and the US population ages (birth rate below replacement rate), the GDP goes up. The population increase in the US, for example, is made up from immigration; legal and illegal. Immigrants from poor countries have higher birth rates than the developed host country. Europe is loosing its culture and language to immigrants as these people do not integrate into the host country to learn the language or adopt the culture. Problems ensue.

 

[George Hatch]

Attempts to support a declining population by importing low-wage workers has contributed to the fall of more than one empire.

But hey, this time it will be different. Right?

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Yeah, raise the minimum wage, right?

 

[George Hatch]

To $150/hr. That will solve all our problems.

 

[Meandering]

You may wind up being surprised. My kids (5 including step kids) are all 31-37 right now. I only have one grandkid so far.

4 kids, All but one in their 30s
7 grandkids all mine from 1-16
3 step kids from 19-27
1 step grand kid that is now a dad. 21 with a 6 month old
I have the opposite problem in having to remind my kids they're not rabbits.
1 kid without kids. 2 step kids without kids.
It evens out.

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[Randolph Kinney]

Here's new evidence minimum-wage hikes result in workers being replaced by robots

There is new evidence that raising the minimum wage pushes business owners to replace low-skilled workers with automation. And it shows that old, young, female and black low-skilled workers face the highest levels of unemployment after a minimum-wage increase.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/evi...sult-in-workers-being-replaced-by-robots.html

Higher labor costs simply improve the payback profile of capital investments in technology thus accelerating job losses.

 

[Meandering]

Attempts to support a declining population by importing low-wage workers has contributed to the fall of more than one empire.

But hey, this time it will be different. Right?

What works is when populations decline dramatically/suddenly, plague, war, famines, clears and cleans the playing field and we all get religion and start over again.

List of famines
7 Worst Killer Plagues in history
Wars and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropogenic_hazard']anthropogenic disasters [/URL]

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[Randolph Kinney]

What solves the problem that an aging population brings? Social programs cost money. So ... taxing robots to pay for universal income makes sense, right?

 

[Riick]

Birth rates are falling and have fallen in the industrialized world. Third world countries have higher birth rates.

Predicted -by some- years back. A result of Malthusian predictions of over-population and mass starvation.
Anyone have an inkling about how homosexuality and other forms of sexuality (those that essentially keep the population from growing) have become not only legal, but are currently on the edge of being fashionable?

(Now places Tin-Foil-Hat firmly on head, protecting brain from Alien and/or NSA mind-control rays)

--- Well, if you think the change in public attitudes & mores
--- over a relatively short period of time (say 1950 to 2010)
--- was purely accidental, no more need be said. Like Topsey, it "just growed".

--- On the other hand, maybe the Government had something to do with it.

--- On the *third* hand, if it wasn't the Government... then .....who ?

 

[Meandering]