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My point is appraisals need to be convincing. Not just a grid with some numbers and "take my word for it" these are the best comps and adjustments are market derived. Commentary should demonstrate market expertise.
 
My point is appraisal reports need to be convincing. Not just a grid with some numbers and "take my word for it" these are the best comps and adjustments are market derived. Commentary should demonstrate market expertise.

This - exactly

This is a key reason that users are seeking alternatives to the 1004. Most 1004s do not offer a compelling reason to believe them.
 
This - exactly

This is a key reason that users are seeking alternatives to the 1004. Most 1004s do not offer a compelling reason to believe them.

Sounds like the "video games make them do it" excuse....
 
Sounds like the "video games make them do it" excuse....
Not an excuse, just an observation. I have spent considerable time over the last few months looking into the motivation behind the market push for alternative products., From what I can tell by my research, the bottom line is that a certain percentage of 1004s are not really credible, and it takes users too much time and money for users to discern which ones are good and which ones are bad. I experience the same thing when i am asked to look at reports. Sure, very basic errors are easy to detect, but really examining a report for a property in an area you are not familiar with takes a lot of time. One could engage another local expert, but that also takes time, and money. For users, it would be far better if reports contained enough imbedded data to allow one to easily see if there was some credible analysis behind the numbers presented.

Just one example - I see many reports, especially in high dollar areas like California, where the land represents 70% or more of the total value, yet the report contains no support for the site value, merely a reference to data in a workfile. Surely the perceived reliability of such reports would be enhanced if the support for the site value was actually included within the report. And, understand that I am not talking about what USPAP or Fannie Mae require - I am talking about value to actual users.
 
Not an excuse, just an observation. I have spent considerable time over the last few months looking into the motivation behind the market push for alternative products., From what I can tell by my research, the bottom line is that a certain percentage of 1004s are not really credible, and it takes users too much time and money for users to discern which ones are good and which ones are bad. I experience the same thing when i am asked to look at reports. Sure, very basic errors are easy to detect, but really examining a report for a property in an area you are not familiar with takes a lot of time. One could engage another local expert, but that also takes time, and money. For users, it would be far better if reports contained enough imbedded data to allow one to easily see if there was some credible analysis behind the numbers presented.

Just one example - I see many reports, especially in high dollar areas like California, where the land represents 70% or more of the total value, yet the report contains no support for the site value, merely a reference to data in a workfile. Surely the perceived reliability of such reports would be enhanced if the support for the site value was actually included within the report. And, understand that I am not talking about what USPAP or Fannie Mae require - I am talking about value to actual users.

Wouldn't this be part of the service provided by the AMCs?

As always....
A disclaimer....
I'm not an AMC basher.....
For someone like me who can't/won't market AMCs work for me....
 
DW "the perceived reliability of such reports would be enhanced if the support for the site value was actually included within the report."

simply make it an assignment condition . prob solved.
 
Wouldn't this be part of the service provided by the AMCs?

As always....
A disclaimer....
I'm not an AMC basher.....
For someone like me who can't/won't market AMCs work for me....
OK, but the challenge is not unique to AMCs. It applies equally to direct engagement work, private work, etc.

simply make it an assignment condition . prob solved.

An idea that I have entertained :) However, as I said above, the challenge is industry wide, and not specific to any one user or type of user. To me, a better solution is to create a true digital architecture for appraisal reports and to have that architecture include imbedded data and analysis. To me, that would go further to "modernize" the appraisal process than some of the alternatives being explored now.
 
DW "the perceived reliability of such reports would be enhanced if the support for the site value was actually included within the report."

simply make it an assignment condition . prob solved.

It depends, the perceived payout to the appraiser for the additional work, (IE: hours required) will not be accomplished via an AMC; when the work required is undervalued as it stands in today's marketplace.
 
OK, but the challenge is not unique to AMCs. It applies equally to direct engagement work, private work, etc.

Based on many of your past posts....

I'll have to surmise that this is the way the intended users want it/prefer it/planned it/can't wait to have it/push to have it/etc....
And not because of "video games"....
 
It depends, the perceived payout to the appraiser for the additional work, (IE: hours required) will not be accomplished via an AMC; when the work required is undervalued as it stands in today's marketplace.

then there is no one to blame but the appraiser if what you say is true. they set the price they were willing to accept for the report produced. no one can make any appraiser complete any report for less money than they are willing to accept, because if they could then we would all accept every report that came over at any fee, most likely less than $100 each. if the pay is not "high" enough for them to perform the actions they should be performing as part of the appraisal process then they can only look into the mirror to find the party responsible.

i'm relatively certain that all of your clients do not pay you the exact same rate for an interior inspection appraisal but i'm also relatively certain you give each client the full effort that you can, right? if client A pays you $500 and client B pays you $400 do you put 20% less effort into research and reporting for client B? of course not.
 
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