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This Won't end Well for Germany

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Dublin ohio said:
The article had nothing to do with my comment. It is what and how Carlson said it. If you take much of what Carlson says literally. It is your TDS getting in the way. IMNSHO. He is one of the most sarcastic pundits on cable TV.
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The man could be accused of spreading Russian propaganda as well. Far be it from me to accuse him of such a thing however.
 
Mike Ault said:
The same way you missed this I guess –

The Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked, “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” But how exactly did Vladimir Putin respond to those pointed questions?

If you listen to the English translation that was broadcast during the press conference, the Russian leader said, “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.” This rendering of Putin’s remarks leaves open the possibility that he’s stating “Yes, I did” in reference not just to wanting Donald Trump to win the 2016 presidential race, but also to ordering Russian officials to help Trump win, even though Putin repeatedly denied Russian interference in the election and collusion with the Trump campaign throughout the rest of the news conference.

www.theatlantic.com

Russian Speakers Explain What Putin Actually Said About Trump

In Helsinki, the Russian president didn’t confess to meddling. But he left no doubt about who he wanted to win the U.S. election.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
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What a crime, he said he wanted peaceful relations with the U.S. Give me a break.
Mike Ault said:
What about the next three or four nations he decides to incorporate back into the Russian sphere of influence against their will? The Eastern European countries in danger of being re-absorbed into the old Soviet Union are sending weapons & support to Ukraine as best they can. Where would you draw the line? Would you be willing go to war to protect our NATO allies?
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OMG Mike, he is not threatening our NATO allies. Why are you going berserk about this? In this thread previously I said if he started threatening our allies or tried to make a move on Poland or something (which is ridiculous) that would be an entirely different situation. Ukraine is not our ally, although I'm sure Hunter and the President have interests there.
 
Dublin ohio said:
Strange that Germany and some other European countries are taking that same stance concerning Russia and the Ukraine
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They are dependent on Russia for energy supplies and they are doubtful of US commitment to their security. And they are woefully unarmed.
 
Were I Vladimir, I'd take every advantage I could of the vacillation and ineptitude emanating from the White House at present.
 
Dublin ohio said:
Let me get this straight. Trump was president for 4 years. During those 4 years we hardly heard a peep from Russia. Trump stopped the Nordstrom II pipeline, put sanctions into effect, kicked out diplomats, etc., etc. But Trump was Putin's puppet. Vlad was sure a bad puppeteer. One would think with all of the influence he had with Trump. That he would have made his "move" during those 4 years. But the minute Biden wins the election. Just about every bad actor in the world rear their ugly heads and starts their crap again. I got it. It is a big conspiracy between Trump and Putin. Trump threw the election so Biden got elected. Knowing that Putin could run right over Biden with no recourse. Then Trump gets a big contract for Trump Tower Moscow. Yea. That's the ticket
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Looks like you've perfectly crystallized the situation, Dublin. :giggle:
 
IlliniApp said:
What a crime, he said he wanted peaceful relations with the U.S. Give me a break.

OMG Mike, he is not threatening our NATO allies. Why are you going berserk about this? In this thread previously I said if he started threatening our allies or tried to make a move on Poland or something (which is ridiculous) that would be an entirely different situation. Ukraine is not our ally, although I'm sure Hunter and the President have interests there.
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Trump wanted other NATO allies to pay their share and talked of Germany being reliant on Russian oil while being in NATO.
 
Mike Ault said:
They are dependent on Russia for energy supplies and they are doubtful of US commitment to their security. And they are woefully unarmed.
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You don't see a problem with the US paying to protect Germany from Russia while Germany is choosing to purchase from Russia.
 
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