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[NC Appraising]

Just have to post a reply to watch this thread.

BTW, I do not have a 4-year degree and have a long record of opposing that requirement.

Are you for getting rid of all education requirements? High school diploma? Some relevant college courses?

How about the rule on how many trainees a sup. Appraiser can have?

How about appraisers being certified in multiple states and gaming the system?

I can see it now...sup. appraiser being certified in 6 states and having 30 trainees...$$$$

The national firms and the large AMCs are loving it. Can't wait to bring in all of these newbies $$$.

For example, the mortgage market is slow...

But, why I'm i getting this?


Recruiting Manager at True Footage. We’ve just enhanced our comp plan to offer more stability, career growth, and bonus potential — and I’d love to invite you to apply to join our team.

We’re hiring Certified Residential Appraisers in the following

 

[chad hampton]

Edit - I originally made a comment and thought George said he did not have a four-year degree. I struggle to read because I’m stupid. I needed to go to college longer. I’m a perfect example of why you need more education.


I don’t know the make up of those boards, like a previous poster said most folks on those boards are there to pad their résumé or in the case of the AMC members to openly advocate for things that will benefit their company - The exact thing appraisers are told we’re not supposed to do. Ethics and morals only applies to appraisers, not revaa representatives.

 

[gregb]

George’s reasoning for opposing the requirement is the exact problem. Because he is one example of a successful appraiser who doesn’t have a college degree then that should apply to the whole profession? I would argue that George is the exception and not the rule.

He has posted that he has a four year degree.

 

[Bobby Bucks]

When I sold advertising for a regional magazine, we had a sales director who was in charge of sales for the magazine, 3 newspapers and several other publications the company owned. My immediate boss who had a masters in journalism loved to say “Can you believe that guy only went to college for one semester and quit?” This sales director was a notoriously bad speller, but, when speaking you would assume he had a Phd, he was gifted and also one of the nicest guys I’ve ever known. One day in a huge sales meeting with sales reps from all the publications, a snippity, junior league type who was a recent hire brought up some typos in a memo he had given us all that morning. He quickly said “I apologize, I’m a horrible speller and my secretary is off and she usually fixes my errors, by the way, what happened with the Wilson account?” (a large advertiser that canceled the first week she got the account.) The reaction was priceless. *LOL* I hope TC sees this one.

 

[Non Sequitur]

George’s reasoning for opposing the requirement is the exact problem. Because he is one example of a successful appraiser who doesn’t have a college degree then that should apply to the whole profession? I would argue that George is the exception and not the rule.

And I argue that there is room for both. Paths may be different, but background diversity is good for our industry.

 

[Francois K. Gregoire]

All of it is whistling past the graveyard since TAF, the AQB, etc. refuse to address the real reason certified appraiser numbers have fallen in the past decade. Degree or not, this field is not attractive with REVAA and national firms like RSDS and Accurity sucking the life out of it. Oops, sorry those firms have seats on both boards. Oh well, maybe one day independent appraisers will have a seat at the adult table.

Again, it is not unreasonable for someone who has earned a degree to have a path to certification that acknowledges relevant courses taken during their journey. And it is not unreasonable for someone who does not have a degree to have a path to certification that includes relevant coursework which is likely above someone who has a degree. Two aspiring groups of people with two paths. But when TAF and the AQB are used more for connections and resume building than actual care for what congress mandated, you get what we have now; 3+ decades of not being able to define appraiser qualifications.

Are you able to cite any source to give The Appraisal Foundation, the Appraiser Qualifications Board, or the Appraisal Standards Board jurisdiction over or the authority to regulate to organizations/firms mentioned in the post above?

With respect to "independent appraisers" having a seat at the table, you imply there are none among the current trustees. How would you classify David Beard? Joe Calvanico? Me? (I'm mentioning only the trustees with terms extending into 2026)

 

[chad hampton]

He has posted that he has a four year degree.

they teach reading at the masters degree level, that’s why I now support advanced degrees.

 

[NC Appraising]

The only thing I know is this:

An over supply of appraisers is good. The more appraisers, the less chance lenders have to blacklist us for not hitting the value. An oversupply of appraisers makes it harder for AMCs and lenders to use other appraisers when that piskey appraiser comes in low.

An oversupply of appraisers makes AMCs less money and they cant steal from borrowers. Which is a good thing. It would really be dishonest to charge 600 for an appraisal and then find an appraiser to do it for 200 and pocket the rest.

We need an oversupply of appraisers. The AMCs and the national firms needs to kill the small business appraiser. This is America after all. Big corporation...venture capitalist moves in...crushes the Lil. Guy.

I'm all in. Get rid of all the barriers to entry. Ill just get a job as a chief appraiser at a AMC.

 

[Francois K. Gregoire]

Are you for getting rid of all education requirements? High school diploma? Some relevant college courses?

How about the rule on how many trainees a sup. Appraiser can have?

How about appraisers being certified in multiple states and gaming the system?

I can see it now...sup. appraiser being certified in 6 states and having 30 trainees...$$$$

The national firms and the large AMCs are loving it. Can't wait to bring in all of these newbies $$$.

For example, the mortgage market is slow...

But, why I'm i getting this?


Recruiting Manager at True Footage. We’ve just enhanced our comp plan to offer more stability, career growth, and bonus potential — and I’d love to invite you to apply to join our team.

We’re hiring Certified Residential Appraisers in the following

Never implied support for eliminating all education requirements. I'll try to find my comment letter to the AQB from last year concerning the college degree requirement.

With respect to the other proposals; no opinion right now. Like everyone else, I just received the Exposure Draft. Have read only the summary and not the entire document.

 

[chad hampton]

And I argue that there is room for both. Paths may be different, but background diversity is good for our industry.

Yes, I agree with this. I think there should be a pathway for a four year or even two year degree in certain fields. And if you don’t meet that requirement, then there can still be a path, but it might be slightly more difficult. Perhaps it’s a longer time training under a supervisor?

And I’ve always been in favor of a separate pathway for military personnel