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Humza Ahmed will conference with you.

Pricing is not given.

https://www.automax.AI/


Automax AI offers a free‑trial‑style experience, but it does not advertise a fixed‑term, self‑serve trial; instead you are asked to “contact” or “talk with us” to get access and details.
How the free trial works
• The main site pushes you to “Try Automax AI for free” via a “Talk with us” or contact form, implying the trial is handled on a request‑by‑request basis rather than a button‑click signup.
• A third‑party review notes that Automax does offer a free trial in some form, but states only “contact for trial availability,” so length and terms are negotiated per client or appraiser.
Who can use it for free
• For appraisers, Automax promotes its AI‑powered appraisal‑tech platform as 100% free when you join its hybrid‑appraisal network, which effectively functions as an ongoing free tier rather than a time‑limited trial.
• For corporate or lender clients, the company likely sets trial length and scope (e.g., limited number of appraisals or seats) after you contact sales or request a demo

Automax AI uses a freemium and tiered‑subscription model, but it does not publish exact public price tags; pricing is handled via “contact‑us” or “contact sales” for most plans.
What is publicly known
• Appraiser side: Automax offers its appraisal‑tech platform for free to appraisers who join its hybrid‑appraisal network; they pay nothing for the core AI‑driven tools and workflow.
• Corporate / institutional clients: The company uses a subscription‑based model with tiered pricing (likely Basic / Pro / Enterprise style), tailored to firm size and usage volume.
• Payment model language: Descriptions note that pricing scales with business size, with custom enterprise plans including support, integrations, and security features.
Trial and demo
• Automax advertises a free trial / demo option rather than a detailed public price list, so you are encouraged to request a demo or quote directly from their site.
 
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Elliott said:
Humza Ahmed will conference with you.

Pricing is not given.



Automax AI offers a free‑trial‑style experience, but it does not advertise a fixed‑term, self‑serve trial; instead you are asked to “contact” or “talk with us” to get access and details.
How the free trial works
• The main site pushes you to “Try Automax AI for free” via a “Talk with us” or contact form, implying the trial is handled on a request‑by‑request basis rather than a button‑click signup.
• A third‑party review notes that Automax does offer a free trial in some form, but states only “contact for trial availability,” so length and terms are negotiated per client or appraiser.
Who can use it for free
• For appraisers, Automax promotes its AI‑powered appraisal‑tech platform as 100% free when you join its hybrid‑appraisal network, which effectively functions as an ongoing free tier rather than a time‑limited trial.
• For corporate or lender clients, the company likely sets trial length and scope (e.g., limited number of appraisals or seats) after you contact sales or request a demo

Automax AI uses a freemium and tiered‑subscription model, but it does not publish exact public price tags; pricing is handled via “contact‑us” or “contact sales” for most plans.
What is publicly known
• Appraiser side: Automax offers its appraisal‑tech platform for free to appraisers who join its hybrid‑appraisal network; they pay nothing for the core AI‑driven tools and workflow.
• Corporate / institutional clients: The company uses a subscription‑based model with tiered pricing (likely Basic / Pro / Enterprise style), tailored to firm size and usage volume.
• Payment model language: Descriptions note that pricing scales with business size, with custom enterprise plans including support, integrations, and security features.
Trial and demo
• Automax advertises a free trial / demo option rather than a detailed public price list, so you are encouraged to request a demo or quote directly from their site.
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Sounds very sketchy.
 
I don't care what the technology is, the 20 minutes to complete is BS. You cant drive to the subject and back, inspect the subject and drive the comps in 20 minutes even if the home were next door.
 
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True Footage v. Automax AI — filed last week in the Northern District of California. Austin-based True Footage, a residential appraiser company that also produces appraisal software, sued San Francisco startup Automax AI, claiming the young company cloned a copy of its software after gaining access through fake MLS credentials. 
The core allegations:
• True Footage sued Automax AI and founder Humza Ahmed for fraud, among other counts, alleging Ahmed fraudulently signed up for True Footage’s solutions, including its TrueTracts product, and used large language models to replicate and mimic True Footage’s tools for new Automax offerings. 
• Ahmed allegedly signed up for True Footage last October by falsely declaring he was a member of six Bay Area MLSs and shared his account credentials with other Automax employees. One Norway-based software engineer is alleged to have copied every aspect of TrueTracts the company could access. 
• True Footage’s flagship service is TrueTracts, which creates visual maps for comparing home prices, and only active MLS members can access it. 
The Y Combinator angle and current monetization:
• Y Combinator invested in Automax last fall, and True Footage claims Automax today is charging certain appraisers $30 per appraisal to use its replicated “Copilot” product. 
• Ahmed dropped out of school, raised seed money, and got into YC, which invests $500,000 for a 3-month program. Under pressure to showcase a worthy product, Ahmed allegedly took a shortcut by copying True Footage’s products. 
Procedural posture:
• True Footage sent a cease-and-desist in late March. Ahmed allegedly asked the company to hold actions in abeyance while he prepared a defense, but presented a sales webinar to appraisers the following day. Attorneys for True Footage wrote that defendants “continue to deflect, providing strong indication that Ahmed or others have tampered with or destroyed evidence.” 
• Automax AI CEO Humza Ahmed denies the allegations and called True Footage’s claims false. 
Context worth noting: True Footage just closed a $40M Series C this month and says it employs hundreds of appraisers and partners with seven of the ten largest mortgage lenders.  So this is a well-capitalized plaintiff going after a YC seed-stage defendant — not a fair fight on legal resources, which probably explains the aggressive complaint language (“vibe coded a copy,” tampering allegations).
The “vibe coding” framing is unusual for a federal complaint and signals True Footage is trying to shape the narrative around AI-assisted IP theft as a new category of harm. Worth watching how the court treats that theory — there’s no clean precedent for LLM-mediated reverse engineering claims.
 
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True Footage v. Automax AI — filed last week in the Northern District of California. Austin-based True Footage, a residential appraiser company that also produces appraisal software, sued San Francisco startup Automax AI, claiming the young company cloned a copy of its software after gaining access through fake MLS credentials. 
The core allegations:
• True Footage sued Automax AI and founder Humza Ahmed for fraud, among other counts, alleging Ahmed fraudulently signed up for True Footage’s solutions, including its TrueTracts product, and used large language models to replicate and mimic True Footage’s tools for new Automax offerings. 
• Ahmed allegedly signed up for True Footage last October by falsely declaring he was a member of six Bay Area MLSs and shared his account credentials with other Automax employees. One Norway-based software engineer is alleged to have copied every aspect of TrueTracts the company could access. 
• True Footage’s flagship service is TrueTracts, which creates visual maps for comparing home prices, and only active MLS members can access it. 
The Y Combinator angle and current monetization:
• Y Combinator invested in Automax last fall, and True Footage claims Automax today is charging certain appraisers $30 per appraisal to use its replicated “Copilot” product. 
• Ahmed dropped out of school, raised seed money, and got into YC, which invests $500,000 for a 3-month program. Under pressure to showcase a worthy product, Ahmed allegedly took a shortcut by copying True Footage’s products. 
Procedural posture:
• True Footage sent a cease-and-desist in late March. Ahmed allegedly asked the company to hold actions in abeyance while he prepared a defense, but presented a sales webinar to appraisers the following day. Attorneys for True Footage wrote that defendants “continue to deflect, providing strong indication that Ahmed or others have tampered with or destroyed evidence.” 
• Automax AI CEO Humza Ahmed denies the allegations and called True Footage’s claims false. 
Context worth noting: True Footage just closed a $40M Series C this month and says it employs hundreds of appraisers and partners with seven of the ten largest mortgage lenders.  So this is a well-capitalized plaintiff going after a YC seed-stage defendant — not a fair fight on legal resources, which probably explains the aggressive complaint language (“vibe coded a copy,” tampering allegations).
The “vibe coding” framing is unusual for a federal complaint and signals True Footage is trying to shape the narrative around AI-assisted IP theft as a new category of harm. Worth watching how the court treats that theory — there’s no clean precedent for LLM-mediated reverse engineering claims.
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Suing each other for stealing their crap product.
 
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Suing each other for stealing their crap product.
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They deserve each other. True Footage's founder admitted he's building a "proprietary database" using the data of appraisers who pay to use his Spark, Synapse, TrueTracts products. I'm guessing he doesn't see the irony.
 
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Appraisers don't need these companies. I have no idea why anyone would give them their hard-earned money.
 
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