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AQB Second Exposure Draft - Proposed Changes to Real Property Appraiser Qualification Criteria

With AI, I'm sure it will be easier and easier to expand their acquisition and control.
AI can break into NSA classified files within hours. Im pretty sure it can value a house close enough.

It's a power grab and just a way for the billionaires to control us. Sad news is that we have to many boot lickers and fan boys cheerleading this crap on. A cult.

https://securityaffairs.com/194016/...most-all-nsa-classified-systems-in-hours.html
 
While one may argue that the existing CG's are gatekeeping their license, the only way to keep qualified and competent appraisers in any licensure level is commensurate compensation. If/when the supply of CG's is overwhelmed, the more qualified/competent will leave as they are able to find more suitable compensation for their education, experience, etc, albeit with some heartburn over the destruction of their once respected field of expertise.
Thoughtful statement. CGs willing to train do not want to literally lose money doing it. And most are not willing to train someone who only leaves to go in direct competition with their mentor including (almost invariably) poaching the mentor's long-established clients. I've been approached up to and including this very month to train someone to become a residential appraiser. Sorry. CRs are a dime a dozen. We've lost no less than 3 area CGs. Further, I have to tell them that I don't even use residential software. That is not my schtick. The lack of compensation while saddled with unlimited liability at our own risk, not just for our work but those we mentor, only makes training someone a hair shirt job.

Again, who needs a CR? The computer can do it a well. The waiver, the hybrid. The only demand is competent CGs who are experts in their field - be it Agri, machinery and industrials, Multifamily, subdivision development, etc. You need a specialty. If you think a house appraiser is tops, then you need to think again. Their days are numbered and their fees are number in 3 digits forever.
 
surveyor who is willing to take on a sac of baggage for little to no return,
Again, the crust of the biscuit... the crux of the problem is there is no profit for the trainer. About the time they become useful to you, they are suddenly your competition. The only CG I trained had to drive 75 miles one way and he licensed in a state where I didn't. It worked for both of us. I used (Rick would say abused) him, and he got what he wanted... and was a helluva an appraiser. He learned that on his own. The "mentored" hours were a requirement to license and probably helped him gain some experience, but I bet 95% of it he could have done without my help.

As for surveyors, most crews around her are Hispanic. They work for the surveyor and the "trainee" if any, is mostly doing work on the computer back in the office. The days of rod man, instrument man, and crew chief are gone. GPS and computer theodolites have long replaced steel 100' taps, transits, and Lord only knows who is capable of even using a plane table and alidade. Well, I know because I did that once upon a time and still own a Mountain alidade and plane table with 2 boards. That kind of field work died in the 1980s when seismic crews were still running seimic lines for the jug hustlers to set seismic sensors (jugs) at interval to create seismic data.
 
With the barriers to entry being able to fog a mirror...

I wonder how many re investors and crooked agents will become appraisers just to juice the values....
 
Appraising has one of the lowest barriers of entry of any profession I can think of.

And professional land surveyors are absolutely killing it right now. They can name their price and they’re booked up for months. Of course, they don’t have an oligopoly middleman that the government mandates they have to deal with. It’s a free market, you want a survey of your property, find a surveyor. Funny how that works.
 
One of the most effective ways to keep others from entering a profession is to require the profession hold a mentor/trainee type of training model.
Engineers (PE) and surveyors, to name a few. They go through a similar tedious logbook and multi-year trainee process.
 
Engineers (PE) and surveyors, to name a few. They go through a similar tedious logbook and multi-year trainee process.

Every worthwhile profession has a similar mentor model. But it's too hard for appraisers?

The issue is the same as we have with every issue in this profession, the leaders have set it up so the independent appraiser can't make money. PE's and engineering firms hire new engineers out of college because they make them a lot of money.
 
Every worthwhile profession has a similar mentor model.
Huh? What about the attorney profession? Not worthwhile? Software engineers? Teachers (unless you consider student teaching the same as mentorship - which it's not). Accounting? Financial Analysts? You get the point. Look, I'm not saying that the mentorship model itself isn't a strong training model - I'm saying the way they set it up for appraisers is backwards. Look at medicine, or architects. Both fields require mentorship, but in the form of 'on the job training'. You get your degree first - fully equipping you for the mentorship (in other words, you already have the tool set when you start your 'mentorship' - you've already acquired the requisite knowledge to actually do the job). Take physicians for example. After graduating, their 'internship' (or mentorship if you like) is actually a decent salary (if you consider 6 digits a decent salary). That's not the case with appraisers, tho. The way they set it up for appraisers (and to Terrel's point), the trainees aren't prepared to actually provide any valuable service, and there is just no impetus to train - i.e. no benefit to the trainer.

If they had set the mentorship program up with education specific to fully preparing a person to be able to appraise (prior to them actually trying to appraise) - and if the mentorship actually had a benefit to the mentor - i.e. if lenders (and HUD and VA) hadn't imposed a 'no trainee only' inspection, our profession would have looked DRASTICALLY different (IMO).
 
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