How many actually believe 3.6 will be fully implemented this year?

[Airstream]

I haven't had a difficult time getting through form, its just incredibly tedious. I prefer the old non digital/less time at the subject method.

The app will take the tedious aspect away. The tedious aspect drives me nuts. Most things will be filled out on site in an organized way. Just sync to the program. All data and pictures in right place. Hard to explain until you try it. My main concern will be learning the Mobile app. Operates a bit different with dynamic form. But it seems pretty logical.

 

[Sadie]

The app will take the tedious aspect away. Most things will be filled out on site in an organized way. Just sync to the program. All data and pictures in right place. Hard to explain until you try it. My main concern will be learning the Mobile app. Operates a bit different with dynamic form. But it seems pretty logical.

But you are still filling out the same thing, whether you do it in the field or in your office. Same time used, but different location? Still checking those boxes and scrolling drop down menus.

 

[Airstream]

But you are still filling out the same thing, whether you do it in the field or in your office. Same time used, but different location? Still checking those boxes and scrolling drop down menus.

Not exactly. And you are not doing it twice.
1) You start with the sketch. Then label the rooms. Then hit the rooms and up pops the place to take picture for that room and you take any notes necessary. You go through that entire process. The app is set up very intuitively. No going back to the office to search for photos or recopying notes. All the room count, levels, etc are already marked before you go back to the office.
2) When in the field you simply go through section by section in the mobile app and fill in the main data. I've been doing this for 20 years with just old forms. And I can tell you it ultimately saves time. And by the way the app won't let you forget things. If you forget something there is a red exclamation mark that comes up. If you are using paper and pencil you won't know that until you get back to the office.
3) Then when you get back to the office you sync everything into the program and no tedious work going through the form on the desktop. It is far more intuitive. The mobile app is geared for how an appraiser does an inspection. The desktop is not.
Yes, you may spend more time at the property. But you won't have to re-sketch the house, search for photos, and re enter data you have put in the app. Plus, if you put in comparable sales ahead of time, you can use the mapping feature to go take photos of the comps if necessary. Also, when I do properties and I have to take a lot of notes, I just talk into my phone and it takes down the notes.

Until you actually try it, it is hard to explain the experience.

And by the way the idea that you stare at a screen instead of look at the house is bogus. It actually make it easier because the app does all the pull downs for you. I could say the same thing about the clipboard...not looking at the house but writing things down.

 

[Sadie]

Not exactly. And you are not doing it twice.
1) You start with the sketch. Then label the rooms. Then hit the rooms and up pops the place to take picture for that room and you take any notes necessary. You go through that entire process. The app is set up very intuitively. No going back to the office to search for photos or recopying notes. All the room count, levels, etc are already marked before you go back to the office.
2) When in the field you simply go through section by section in the mobile app and fill in the main data. I've been doing this for 20 years with just old forms. And I can tell you it ultimately saves time. And by the way the app won't let you forget things. If you forget something there is a red exclamation mark that comes up. If you are using paper and pencil you won't know that until you get back to the office.
3) Then when you get back to the office you sync everything into the program and no tedious work going through the form on the desktop. It is far more intuitive. The mobile app is geared for how an appraiser does an inspection. The desktop is not.
Yes, you may spend more time at the property. But you won't have to re-sketch the house, search for photos, and re enter data you have put in the app. Plus, if you put in comparable sales ahead of time, you can use the mapping feature to go take photos of the comps if necessary. Also, when I do properties and I have to take a lot of notes, I just talk into my phone and it takes down the notes.

Until you actually try it, it is hard to explain the experience.

And by the way the idea that you stare at a screen instead of look at the house is bogus. It actually make it easier because the app does all the pull downs for you. I could say the same thing about the clipboard...not looking at the house but writing things down.

Didn't actually say you stare at a screen instead of the house. Not sure where you got that.

 

[Airstream]

Didn't actually say you stare at a screen instead of the house. Not sure where you got that.

That was from another post I read on this thread.

 

[Sadie]

I started experimenting a bit with the Total for Mobile app for the 3.6. I've been using the app for decades. Glad I've been doing that, because you are absolutely right. Those that choose to do this without a mobile app will never keep all this straight. They will go absolutely nuts trying to get through the form.

Fannie has a chart for what is needed, what photos are needed and what is needed in the inspection. You can do a check list at the site. There are times when you want the site visit to be as short as possible.
https://singlefamily.fanniemae.com/media/47671/display

 

[J Grant]

I plan to use a combo of a mobile app on my iPhone ( which I have to learn) and filling out the 3.6 on my home desktop. I plan to make a basic sketch on site, such as a rectangle, and type in room lables. Clicking on room labels in the sketch will drop the photos, which I will take on my phone, in the correct places - the time saver I am interested in. I'd rather fill in the rest of the data back at home office.

 

[Airstream]

Fannie has a chart for what is needed, what photos are needed and what is needed in the inspection. You can do a check list at the site. There are times when you want the site visit to be as short as possible.
https://singlefamily.fanniemae.com/media/47671/display

Yeh, good luck with that. So you are going to go quick at a site while trying to figure out from a 4 page list all the photos you are supposed to get? I don't see how that will possibly go quicker. That's already built into the Mobile App. Why take a big list? In 29 years I have never had a situation I had to leave a site quickly. If you don't want to use the mobile app, that's fine. Go for it.

 

[Vermonter]

Going by my experience with 3.6 so far, the mobile inspection app almost seems mandatory. Anyone writing all the data down on site and then re-entering back in the office is going to see their hourly rate crash. Collecting data once, even if it takes longer on site, will maximize profitability.

FTR, been using a mobile inspection device since the mid 00s with pocket total and the HP iPAQ. It's always taken more time on site and less re-entering in the office, but 3.6 requires a lot more data entry.

 

[Airstream]

Going by my experience with 3.6 so far, the mobile inspection app almost seems mandatory. Anyone writing all the data down on site and then re-entering back in the office is going to see their hourly rate crash. Collecting data once, even if it takes longer on site, will maximize profitability.

FTR, been using a mobile inspection device since the mid 00s with pocket total and the HP iPAQ. It's always taken more time on site and less re-entering in the office, but 3.6 requires a lot more data entry.

Exactly.