I have two questions for specialists regarding UAD 3.6.

[TC]

Will the form have to filled out using an Ipad or phone?

If so, will that eliminate full URAR reports from becoming hybrids?

 

[jpowers]

TC — the short answer is no, nothing in UAD 3.6 ties you to an iPad or phone. The 3.6 "form" is really a data standard
underneath — a redesigned report plus the XML dataset behind it. You fill it out in your form software the same way
you do now: desktop, laptop, or tablet, whatever you prefer.

The device you type on doesn't change the report type. Whether something is a full URAR, exterior-only, desktop, or
hybrid is driven by the assignment — the inspection scope and who physically looks at the property — not by the
software or the redesigned form. The same 3.6 dataset just flexes to whichever scope the assignment calls for.

So entering data on a tablet in the field doesn't quietly turn a full interior URAR into a hybrid. It's still a full
report; the tablet is just a convenience for on-site entry. The appraiser still controls the scope.

 

[Non Sequitur]

Will the form have to filled out using an Ipad or phone?

If so, will that eliminate full URAR reports from becoming hybrids?

1) No. The sketch/floor plan can be hand drawn in the field and you can drop an image from your desktop sketch software into 3.6. Honestly, despite what some are pushing, you can continue with the same field process if you are aware of the additional data points needed (ceiling heights, etc.). The big change is the amount of data points collected and reported. So, you can use a mobile device for the field work and then sync with your desktop (or cloud-based software), or collect manually (hand sketch, camera photos) and populate from your desk manually, or use a.i. to auto populate, or some sort of typing service or foreign assistant like the coach teaches to populate 3.6.

2) No. 3.6 allows for PDC based desktop/hybrids.

 

[J Grant]

If one does not want to do the full sketch on a tablet or iphone on site...I asked tech support at Alamode to draw a simple square and put in the labels: bedrooms, baths, etc. Then when you take the photos with iPhone, it will input on the UAD 3.6 the bedroom, bath, etc photos into the image fields with those labels.

What is annoying and weird about UAD 3.6 ( in the brief time I spent with it ) is that it uses odd terminology, such as a garage is not called a garage but is called storage or something similar, and other odd labels for things.

 

[J Grant]

A box checked on the UAD lets a client or reader know whether it is a hybrid or not - the box checked indicates whether the appraiser inspected the subject or another party inspected the subject.

 

[Non Sequitur]

If one does not want to do the full sketch on a tablet or iphone on site...I asked tech support at Alamode to draw a simple square and put in the labels: bedrooms, baths, etc. Then when you take the photos with iPhone, it will input on the UAD 3.6 the bedroom, bath, etc photos into the image fields with those labels.

That's a great workaround. Draw a box and insert Kitchen, Living, Bedrooms, etc. for photo population then manually sketch if that's what you want to do.

What is annoying and weird about UAD 3.6 ( in the brief time I spent with it ) is that it uses odd terminology, such as a garage is not called a garage but is called storage or something similar, and other odd labels for things.

Yeah, a lot of terminology changed. Street Scene is now Subject Access, etc.

 

[nachocheesefries]

TC — the short answer is no, nothing in UAD 3.6 ties you to an iPad or phone. The 3.6 "form" is really a data standard
underneath — a redesigned report plus the XML dataset behind it. You fill it out in your form software the same way
you do now: desktop, laptop, or tablet, whatever you prefer.

The device you type on doesn't change the report type. Whether something is a full URAR, exterior-only, desktop, or
hybrid is driven by the assignment — the inspection scope and who physically looks at the property — not by the
software or the redesigned form. The same 3.6 dataset just flexes to whichever scope the assignment calls for.

So entering data on a tablet in the field doesn't quietly turn a full interior URAR into a hybrid. It's still a full
report; the tablet is just a convenience for on-site entry. The appraiser still controls the scope.

Important to note that it takes about twice as much time to fill out the 3.6 form and is hell on your eyes...I am going to Japan at the end of October so I can sit on here and laugh as the **** show unfolds. These idiot lenders should already being ordering 3.6's and establishing their list of who can do it...they all just send out emails asking, but have no clue who is really going to be prepared. Its a small *** number I can tell you that.

 

[jpowers]

If one does not want to do the full sketch on a tablet or iphone on site...I asked tech support at Alamode to draw a simple square and put in the labels: bedrooms, baths, etc. Then when you take the photos with iPhone, it will input on the UAD 3.6 the bedroom, bath, etc photos into the image fields with those labels.

What is annoying and weird about UAD 3.6 ( in the brief time I spent with it ) is that it uses odd terminology, such as a garage is not called a garage but is called storage or something similar, and other odd labels for things.

J Grant — the naming genuinely is odd in places, though the garage one is better than it looks. The section is called
Vehicle Storage because it has to cover carports, driveways, open lots, shared drives and parking garages under one
heading. Inside it, the value you actually pick is still "Garage." The section got the generic name so the list
underneath it wouldn't need one.

Same pattern on the photos. Non Sequitur has it close: the front photo is its own category, and the street shot is
Property Access. They're separate values now rather than one street scene, because the category travels with the photo
as data rather than as a caption someone typed.

That's most of the vocabulary change in one sentence. The labels became values in a shared list, so they had to be
unambiguous across every property type the same list has to describe, including ones that never come up in a typical
suburban assignment. Reads as bureaucratic when you're looking at a plain house with a plain attached garage, which is
fair.

 

[Dublin ohio]

J Grant — the naming genuinely is odd in places, though the garage one is better than it looks. The section is called
Vehicle Storage because it has to cover carports, driveways, open lots, shared drives and parking garages under one
heading. Inside it, the value you actually pick is still "Garage." The section got the generic name so the list
underneath it wouldn't need one.

Same pattern on the photos. Non Sequitur has it close: the front photo is its own category, and the street shot is
Property Access. They're separate values now rather than one street scene, because the category travels with the photo
as data rather than as a caption someone typed.

That's most of the vocabulary change in one sentence. The labels became values in a shared list, so they had to be
unambiguous across every property type the same list has to describe, including ones that never come up in a typical
suburban assignment. Reads as bureaucratic when you're looking at a plain house with a plain attached garage, which is
fair.

Took the Nighthawk training session yesterday. Two hour live presentation. After reading all of the hysterics concerning 3.6, I was underwhelmed

 

[TerryRohrer]

Took the Nighthawk training session yesterday. Two hour live presentation. After reading all of the hysterics concerning 3.6, I was underwhelmed

Underwhelmed with the software, or the hystrionics?