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1004 Re-write: To Include Different Sow (hybrids)

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I heard this second hand, but from a couple of different sources; while not an absolute certainly, I think it is on the horizon.

As we know, Fannie is in the process of re-writing their forms. However, there is talk about an interim step in the forms.
The final re-write may be a few years off.
But an interim re-write may include this: Multiple SOW with a different limiting conditions section for each SOW.
One SOW will be what exists currently (more or less).
An additional SOW will be written to include the ability to complete a hybrid (3rd party inspector).

Check one box (or, include one SOW/Limiting Conditions) and it is the traditional 1004.
Check a different box (or, include a different SOW/Limiting Conditions) and it is now a hybrid.

I can understand, from a reporting-process, why this may sound like a good idea:
  • Appraisers are familiar with the 1004 format
  • Clients/intended users are familiar with the 1004 format
  • If there is a check-box to differentiate the different inspection-types, that is easily coded and tracked

Despite the form and processing efficiency, if this is an interim re-write, I don't think it is a good idea.
  • How easy is it to mis-check a box or put in the wrong SOW?
  • Although such stakeholders as real estate agents, borrowers, buyers, etc., are not clients nor intended users, a large segment of the stakeholder pie is somewhat familiar with what a residential appraisal looks like, and there may certainly be confusion as to what type of inspection-process was actually performed if the two forms look so similar (except for a check-bod and the pre-printed SOW/limiting conditions).

I've looked at non-GSE hybrid form-reports (and, I think there are examples on most of our form software packages now) and certainly to anyone who is familiar with the 1004, the hybrid reports are clearly different. It would be difficult to confuse the two.

I'm hoping that what I heard is just an option and not the choice. We have a different form- recognizable by those who need to know- for drive-bys vs. interior/exterior inspections. I don't see a really compelling reason why we shouldn't have a different form for an hybrid inspection as well.
 
LOL. This will be funny if its true. See? FNMA can and does change stuff whenever they want to.
 
Interim, eh?

Fondly recalling they wrapped the last "new version" around a rock, threw it through the window at us and ran off into night. Recall how there was nothing published by them then to accompany that 2005 release? Endless debating and sorting it here. Then they were shamed into during a tour. Then they abruptly halted the tour when appraisers asked hard questions in the various venues and posted about how it went? (Perhaps some booing was involved. No one bought the tour teeshirts either.)

Sounds sort of 1004D-ish. That is a horse with a zebra head, so a fine precedent.
 
heard this second hand, but from a couple of different sources; while not an absolute certainly, I think it is on the horizon.
As we know, Fannie is in the process of re-writing their forms. However, there is talk about an interim step in the forms.
The final re-write may be a few years off.

The first sentence makes it sound like a rumor. Like my rumor, Denis is a saint, see the street sign photo I posted a while back. :leeann2:
The last sentence sounds good to me. Take your time, go slow, finish it after I retire. :peace:
 
Mixing different SOWs on one form. It's been done before. Here's a few examples.

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How about this one?

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If the hybrid is a 1004 form, main difference box checked /, it is easier to charge a borrower the same fee as for a regular 1004 and mix hybrid appraisald with non hybrids appraisals to package loans to investors. The "confusion" aka mistaking one for the other to borrowers and users is deliberate imo, since it would be easy for Fannie to develop a separate hybrid form if they chose to do so.


I wonder if the borrower will be informed pre inspection that a non appraiser is the going to inspect, or the borrower's only realization will be after when they get the appraisal back .
 
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What about the signature page.. I assume the inspector wont; sign it or be identified by name?

I bet there is no signature for the inspector, ...will they be named or anonymous referred to " as the inspector"..

The term hybrid, or "bifurcated" , imaybe Fannie can substitute the Latin "Hybrida" and make it sound awesome..

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hybrid
 
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If they do use this type of form in the future, all participants (i.e., the Inspector) must be identified.
 
If they do use this type of form in the future, all participants (i.e., the Inspector) must be identified.

Is that your opinion,or from a source /Fannie?

Will the inspector have their name/identity/credentials on the report, or just be referred to as "the inspector"? Will they sign the report ? ( I doubt they will sign but who knows...)
 
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