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A few questions on REO Appraisal Procedure

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Be serious Web.

I see this issue as being the most "dangerous" assignment type occuring at this time. The goal is not assessing risk for purposes of setting LTV, the goal is to mitigate loss. There are some complicated HBU issues to work through.

You aren't suggesting then that appraisers should be hired for such assignments based on something other than cheap and fast as the sole parameters of hiring determination? Or are you saying, since these assignments are "the most dangerous" type at this time, that they should be left to the idiots that charge so little for them it makes it a very bad business choice for any of the rest of us to bother with attempting to compete with them?
 
GB (#38):

The answer to your question results in a definition that is incompatible with the intent of the preceding statement.

Do appraisers define the client-imposed values that are less than the typical exposure as "liquidation" value in the report?

I'm still hung up on the apparent contradiction that data leading up to the current point in time has absolutely no bearing on the future, e.g., rolling snake eyes on 100 consecutive rolls has no effect on the outcome of the 101st roll.

If market exposure is defined as 120 - 150 days and the appraiser opines market exposure of 30 - 60 days, do values 3 and 4 pertain to the suggested list price 4 - 5 months prior to the effective date that would have resulted in the as repaired value opined in the report, on the effective date?

If so, who cares?

p.s. Cheap & Fast trumps Expensive & Slow in a true market economy.
 
Zig,

Where did you get "suggested list price" in a REO assignment?

Something to think about. There is marketing time and then there is exposure time. Not necessarily in that order.

I have something like this in my reports:

Normal Exposure Time: The subjects normal market value is based on an reasonable exposure time estimated to be between 90-180 days. The basis of the exposure time is assumed that a licensed real estate agent associated with a full service local real estate firm be engaged to market the property to the widest possible range of buyers consistent with the property type identified in this report.

Client Imposed Exposure Time: The subjects disposition value is based on a limited exposure time estimated to be between 60-90 days. The basis of the limited exposure time is assumed that a licensed real estate agent associated with a full service local real estate firm be engaged to market the property in an orderly and minimally adequate method to a more narrow range of buyers to cause the sale of the property within the 60-90 day period.
 
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Carnivore (#43)

I based the "suggested list price" phrase upon GB's comment that the client is seeking advice for its marketing plan, which would be based upon the current as is/repaired value, which would culminate in a retrospective list price, which would result in the selling price on the effective date relative to the client-imposed exposure. (maybe???)

(I'm struggling to conceptualize the REO concept in the chicken-egg perspective: the REO report appears to ask the proverbial word question: "What time in the future will the chicken get to the other side of the road departing on its trip on the effective date and walking backwards in time at the client-imposed chicken-feet-per-hour"?) I always found it interesting that the USPAP definition of a retrospective assignment recommended the tense that should be employed, although I'm thinking that client-imposed REO values would need to employ contradictory tenses in the same statement in order to meet the intended use of the report (which is a stretch because as Webbed so aptly pointed out, I don't understand the intended use).

Your comment "Not necessarily . . . " is understood although . . . once again/still I'm confused with the use of the phrase "market exposure" as it applies to all 4 values.

Your use of the term "disposition value" is helpful. Does repeated use of the word "limited" in the definition result in a limited intended use that should be expressed in the report?

--Zig(gy) played guitar with Weird & Gilly
 
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Zig,

Where did you get "suggested list price" in a REO assignment?

Something to think about. There is marketing time and then there is exposure time. Not necessarily in that order.

I have something like this in my reports:

Normal Exposure Time: The subjects normal market value is based on an reasonable exposure time estimated to be between 90-180 days. The basis of the exposure time is assumed that a licensed real estate agent associated with a full service local real estate firm be engaged to market the property to the widest possible range of buyers consistent with the property type identified in this report.

Client Imposed Exposure Time: The subjects disposition value is based on a limited exposure time estimated to be between 60-90 days. The basis of the limited exposure time is assumed that a licensed real estate agent associated with a full service local real estate firm be engaged to market the property in an orderly and minimally adequate method to a more narrow range of buyers to cause the sale of the property within the 60-90 day period.

Carn... Ouch! I had to read both of those three times. Worse than a few grammar glitches, you've created two new types of value. "Normal Market Value," and "Disposition Value." Do you have definitions for them both? It makes no sense at all to claim the possibility of a reduced marketing time by supposedly marketing to a "more narrow range" of buyers. Explain how reducing the pool of buyers decreases marketing time? Good luck on that one.. ;) .. It must work just the opposite. One has to INCREASE the pool of possible buyers, by making the property more affordable and/or better marketing itself, in order to reduce marketing time. Using "minimally adequate methods" is *** backwards. To successfully restrict a marketing time, it may take both reducing the listing price AND increasing, or maximizing, the marketing methods used, not minimizing them.
 
Today's REO assignment is for partial construction luxury SFR on a huge lot.
 
Webb

I understand your concern. From the below I am trying to come up with something useful and standard to apply to REO and the myriad of different lenders and there wide range of needs and desires. This aint an easy task.

If you read all three below you can see where I was going with my abbreviated paragraphs. There is a lot more to this, and it is clear I did not just pluck it from my but t.


disposition value
The most probable price that a specified interest in real property is likely to bring under all of the following conditions:
1. Consummation of a sale will occur within a limited future marketing period specified by the client.
2. The actual market conditions currently prevailing are those to which the appraised property interest is subject.
3. The buyer and seller is each acting prudently and knowledgeably.
4. The seller is under compulsion to sell.
5. The buyer is typically motivated.
6. Both parties are acting in what they consider their best interests.
7. An adequate marketing effort will be made in the limited time allowed for the completion of a sale.
8. Payment will be made in cash in U.S. dollars or in terms of financial arrangements comparable thereto.
9. The price represents the normal consideration for the property sold, unaffected by special or creative financing or sales concessions granted by anyone associated with the sale.

This definition can also be modified to provide for valuation with specified financing terms. See also distress sale; forced price; liquidation value; market value.

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exposure time
1. The time a property remains on the market.
2. The estimated length of time the property interest being appraised would have been offered on the market prior to the hypothetical consummation of a sale at market value on the effective date of the appraisal; a retrospective estimate based on an analysis of past events assuming a competitive and open market. Exposure time is always presumed to occur prior to the effective date of the appraisal. The overall concept of reasonable exposure encompasses not only adequate, sufficient and reasonable time but also adequate, sufficient and reasonable effort. Exposure time is different for various types of real estate and value ranges and under various market conditions. (Appraisal Standards Board of The Appraisal Foundation, Statement on Appraisal Standards No. 6, "Reasonable Exposure Time in Real Property and Personal Property Market Value Opinions")
Market value estimates imply that an adequate marketing effort and reasonable time for exposure occurred prior to the effective date of the appraisal. In the case of disposition value, the time frame allowed for marketing the property rights is somewhat limited, but the marketing effort is orderly and adequate. With liquidation value, the time frame for marketing the property rights is so severely limited that an adequate marketing program cannot be implemented. (The Report of the Appraisal Institute Special Task Force on Value Definitions qualifies exposure time in terms of the three above-mentioned values.) See also marketing time.

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marketing time1. The time it takes an interest in real property to sell on the market sub-sequent to the date of an appraisal.
2. Reasonable marketing time is an estimate of the amount of time it might take to sell an interest in real property at its estimated market value during the period immediately after the effective date of the appraisal; the anticipated time required to expose the property to a pool of prospective purchasers and to allow appropriate time for negotiation, the exercise of due diligence, and the consummation of a sale at a price supportable by concurrent market conditions. Marketing time differs from exposure time, which is always presumed to precede the effective date of the appraisal. (Advisory Opinion 7 of the Appraisal Standards Board of The Appraisal Foundation and Statement on Appraisal Standards No. 6, "Reasonable Exposure Time in Real Property and Personal Property Market Value Opinions" address the determination of reasonable exposure and marketing time.) See also exposure time.
 
To continue...You can see from the following that there is Market Value and then there Is Market Value. It all depends upon conditions and actions.

If you have limited time to market a property then you must limit efforts and focus resources so as to cause the sale in the prescribed time as set by the client, not by the normal market conditions.

Webb, this is no easy feat with the way the Mortgage Industry works now days.

market value
The major focus of most real property appraisal assignments. Both economic and legal definitions of market value have been developed and refined. Continual refinement is essential to the growth of the appraisal profession.

1. The most widely accepted components of market value are incorporated in the following definition:
The most probable price, as of a specified date, in cash, or in terms equivalent to cash, or in other precisely revealed terms, for which the specified property rights should sell after reasonable exposure in a competitive market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale, with the buyer and seller each acting prudently, knowledgeably, and for self-interest, and assuming that neither is under undue duress.

2. Market value is defined in the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP) as follows:
A type of value, stated as an opinion, that presumes the transfer of a property (i.e., a right of ownership or a bundle of such rights), as of a certain date, under specific conditions set forth in the definition of the term identified by the appraiser as applicable in an appraisal. (USPAP, 2002 ed.)

USPAP also requires that certain items be included in every appraisal report. Among these items, the following are directly related to the definition of market value:
o Identification of the specific property rights to be appraised.
o Statement of the effective date of the value opinion.
o Specification as to whether cash, terms equivalent to cash, or other precisely described financing terms are assumed as the basis of the appraisal.
o If the appraisal is conditioned upon financing or other terms, specification as to whether the financing or terms are at, below or above market interest rates and/or contain unusual conditions or incentives. The terms of above- or below-market interest rates and/or other special incentives must be clearly set forth; their contribution to, or negative influence on, value must be described and estimated; and the market data supporting the opinion of value must be described and explained.

3. The following definition of market value is used by agencies that regulate federally insured financial institutions in the United States:
The most probable price which a property should bring in a competitive and open market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale, the buyer and seller each acting prudently and knowledgeably, and assuming the price is not affected by undue stimulus. Implicit in this definition is the consummation of a sale as of a specified date and the passing of title from seller to buyer under conditions whereby:
o Buyer and seller are typically motivated;
o Both parties are well informed or well advised, and acting in what they consider their best interests;
o A reasonable time is allowed for exposure in the open market;

o Payment is made in terms of cash in U.S. dollars or in terms of financial arrangements comparable thereto; and
o The price represents the normal consideration for the property sold unaffected by special or creative financing or sales concessions granted by anyone associated with the sale.

(12 C.F.R. Part 34.42(g); 55 Federal Register 34696, August 24, 1990, as amended at 57 Federal Register 12202, April 9, 1992; 59 Federal Register 29499, June 7, 1994)

4. In 1993, the Appraisal Institute Special Task Force on Value Definitions put forward the following definition of market value:
The most probable price which a specified interest in real property is likely to bring under all of the following conditions:
o Consummation of a sale occurs as of a specified date.
o An open and competitive market exists for the property interest appraised.
o The buyer and seller are each acting prudently and knowledgeably.
o The price is not affected by undue stimulus.
o The buyer and seller are typically motivated.
o Both parties are acting in what they consider their best interest.
o Marketing efforts were adequate and a reasonable time was allowed for exposure in the open market.
o Payment was made in cash in U.S. dollars or in terms of financial arrangements comparable thereto.
o The price represents the normal consideration for the property sold, unaffected by special or creative financing or sales concessions granted by anyone associated with the sale.
This definition can also be modified to provide for valuation with specified financing terms.
5. The International Valuation Standards Committee defines market value for the purpose of international standards as follows:
Market value is the estimated amount for which a property should exchange on the date of valuation between a willing buyer and a willing seller in an arm's-length transaction after proper marketing wherein the parties had each acted knowledgeably, prudently, and without compulsion.

(International Valuation Standards 2001. London: International Valuation Standards Committee, 2001, 92.)

Persons performing appraisal services that may be subject to litigation are cautioned to seek the exact definition of market value applicable to the jurisdiction where the services are being performed. For further discussion of this important term, see The Appraisal of Real Estate, 12th ed.
(Chicago: Appraisal Institute, 2001), 21-24
 
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Carnivore: That you took the time to provide these defintions is greatly appreciated. I have a question that pertains to your comments but only somewhat to this thread.

I never did understand (sorry as I am to admit it) the issue of FRT's and knowing which appraisal reports are going where and subject to which guidelines.

Bullet# 3 in Post# 48 describes "federally insured financial institutions..."

Is a REO report with the intended user being a private lending institution, and the intended use being to establish a listing price (as far as I can figure) based upon the opinions of value expressed in REO# 3 and #4 subject to those guidelines if the property is marketed and subsequently sells baed upon the REO value(s) in #3 and #4 of the report, consequently required mortgage insurance by a "federally insured..."?

(I'm not sure if my question makes sense because I don't understand the implications of the "federally insured..." but hope you can understand my question based upon your understanding of the issue.
 
Carn... Ouch! I had to read both of those three times. Worse than a few grammar glitches, you've created two new types of value. "Normal Market Value," and "Disposition Value." Do you have definitions for them both? It makes no sense at all to claim the possibility of a reduced marketing time by supposedly marketing to a "more narrow range" of buyers. Explain how reducing the pool of buyers decreases marketing time? Good luck on that one.. ;) .. It must work just the opposite. One has to INCREASE the pool of possible buyers, by making the property more affordable and/or better marketing itself, in order to reduce marketing time. Using "minimally adequate methods" is *** backwards. To successfully restrict a marketing time, it may take both reducing the listing price AND increasing, or maximizing, the marketing methods used, not minimizing them.
Oh, but it makes perfect sense. With a very short time to dispose of the property, only those that can actually afford to buy the house can purchase it as opposed to normal marketing time when you also include those who cannot afford to buy it, but can borrow the money to buy it.
 
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