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a synopsis of the hope program in the new bill

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Riick is feeling sympathy for the lenders being bailed out? Screw em, and let them eat the foreclosures. I don't think I heard a loud protest from the lenders " Don't throw me in that briar patch bro rabbit" You have got to be kidding or smoking off the grid products.
 
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((correction)) No 2nd Liens within 1st five years of getting the HOPE loan (special circumstances excepted)

The shared appreaicaiton feature is interesting.

Sale within 1 year - 100% of any increase in equity to FHA/HUD
Sale within 2 years - 80% of any increase in equity to FHA/HUD
Sale within 3 years - 70% of any increase in equity to FHA/HUD
Sale within 4 years - 60% of any increase in equity to FHA/HUD
Sale 5+ years - 50% of any increase in equity to FHA/HUD

-- no time limits on the 50%, and if any refinance -- HUD/FHA gets 50% of the refi $ amount, since that is homeowner equity.
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No doubt there will be a lot of sham transactions to sell these properties for less than full market value in the future......and pressure on appraisers to come in low on values!
 
it is not a gift from the taxpayers, the loss is absorbed by the original bank who wrote down the loan. the loss is not absorbed by the tax payers, HUD underwrites the loan with the expectation of getting half of equity at a future sale, which might benefit taxpayers...it hopefully will stabilize communities in the following way ( should have been passes months ago, would have prevented the debacle we have now)
22 Cherry Street, owned by Mr Smith, was bought for $250,000. It is now worth $200,000. Mr. Smith, upside down in his mortgage, unable to sell, will abandon the house. It now goes into foreclosure. This brings down the neighborhood, and negatively affects other values nearby. the house at foreclosure sells for $200,000, and the bank takes a loss for $50,000. Mr Smith's credit is now ruined keeping him from being a future home buyer.

Under the hope program, instead of abandoning an upside down house, Mr Smith has incentive to keep 22 Cherry Street and has it appraised for $200,000. HUD agrees to lend on it at 90%, with 10% equity for borrower, but when borrower sells, they give HUD half equity. The original bank takes the same loss they would have if in foreclosure, due to not having to pay attorney fees, maintain a house for months, pay closing costs, realtor commissions etc. 22 Cherry Street is now one less home on a flooded market. Mr. Smith saves his credit, and down the road will be able to buy another home. He sells 22 Cherry Street 4 years later for $230,000, splits difference with HUD, HUD has made money on the loan which helps keep financial system stable.

It remains to be seen how much money HUD will lose on some of these loans, but they will lost money on some of these loand since they are essentially lending at a 90% LTV in a falling market (if the appraisal is not inflated), to a borrower who is currently behind in their mortgage and likely has crappy credit. Some of these new loans will default before there is nay increase in equity and HUD will take a hit on these loans. The question is whether or not the cumulative losses on the loans which do default will exceed the gain on the future gain HUD makes from the their share of the appreciation of the other properties in the future. Seeing how there may not be any significant appreciation in many areas for many years to come, we just don't know the answer to this question at this time.
 
^^^^^^
Just like the HOLC (Home Owners Lending Corporation) of the 1930's....
Gov enterprise, that looked like they were going to lose a ton of $$, financing houses
in that declining market, but, at the end, they actually turned a profit.
Not large, but a profit.

BTW... I do NOT feel the lenders pain, nor feel sorry for those people whose mutual funds own those CDOs.
IMHO, "You pays your money, and you takes you chances."
You can put all your eggs in one basket, but then you better watch the basket real close.
 
this bill differs from the others is that it is not bailing out the lenders, but bailing out ( or helping, depending on your point of view) the indivicual owner. Since lender health depends on individual owner health ( abitlity to repay) , helping the owners ( little people, re tax payers) is a smart move, one this admin was going to veto,,had we helped borrowers earlier, instead of pumping billions into failing financial institutions, the market and economy would be better than it is now. This bill will help, but it is coming in very late, too many homeowners have already defaulted, the market will be stuck with excess inventory for years , hundreds of thousands of former owners, with no equity after being foreclosed and ruined credit, won't have the downpayment or credit avail to buy homes, further adding to oversupply. I agree, some of the new FHA loans will default, but the greater number of loans that will perform will still make the program profitable.
 
I realize this is an old thread but reading through this it looks like its only for sub prime loans on the original transaction?

So if someone had good credit and wasnt "tricked" by the terrible sub prime broker than theres no "out" for them? Its basicly punishing people for having good credit and putting actual hard earned savings down on a home. Arent they the ones that should get help if job/market/economic conditions drastically change?

Its helping people who shouldnt of had a house in the first place. So the hard working/saver/family man gets no HOPE because he didnt have to go subprime?
 
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