ABOLISH and OUTLAW bank owned/affiliated and/or contracted management companies.

[kerrylanger]

I'm pretty sure I stated what I disagreed with on the 15th of December. Now granted that was the first edition of this petition, but not much has changed since then.

Stone, please read the above quote.

Kevin, I have been following this thread and many who disagree have not been constructive. "It's a mess." "Your congressman will get a headache." "Ramblings of a malcontent." Is that what you consider constructive?

Craig, I think you are wasting your time trying to convince a few people on the forum that disagree with you.

 

[xm4yb7]

Stone, please read the above quote.

And I stand by that statement. I provided my opinion on some fundamental flaws in the original petition. The new version still has those flaws. So from my point of view, the petition has not changed very much.

 

[Couch Potato]

Talking to the wall.

There are a wide variety of persons that object...Pamela Crowley won't sign it...is she "the former?"



You're making the erroneous assumption that your path is the only way to enlightenment. I don't need a petition and I don't need a union. I don't like AMCs so I don't work for them. If everyone took my course of action AMCs would change their ways or go out of business.

Love your response. The only one I like more is the one in post #210 by Mr. Rex.

 

[Hamlet]

I don’t understand why input requires a cut and paste job and a re-write from everyone. There has been some excellent advice given and Marsha outlined it (IMO). Also the suggestion to start with the appraiser’s petition and hire an attorney for the drafting are all excellent.

I just think that you guys are too caught up emotionally and are taking honest felt criticisms to much to heart.

 

[CraigButterfield]

There are a wide variety of persons that object...Pamela Crowley won't sign it...is she "the former?"

You're making the erroneous assumption that your path is the only way to enlightenment. I don't need a petition and I don't need a union. I don't like AMCs so I don't work for them. If everyone took my course of action AMCs would change their ways or go out of business.

I have no idea who YOUR clients are, but if your clients seek loans, and the loans are going through the mortgage brokerage community, and YOU are not on the approved list with the AMC of the day, then YOU will soon be out of business.

If everyone took your course of action, whatever that may be, I have no idea, but most residential appraisers I know will be sweeping floors at the Walmart, as the majority of residential work IS now dominated by the big AMC's. I truthfully am not certain, but a decade ago I don't think they even existed. Most every major bank and lender in the country has one or works with an AMC today.

Again for the record, I perform commercial appraisal work, and do not even work for AMC's. I believe I put out two quotes for them in the past year.

I started this petition at the behest of residential appraisers I personally know who are being driven out of business by them.

Please see Ray Millers and other comments for those who had signed on my original draft of the petition. Their comments are quite different than the rhetoric from the basher crowd I have had to repond to here. See appriaslunion.org (Agenda section - petitions)

You are very ignorant regarding this subject matter! That is truthfully not put forth to you as an insult. Read wikipedia for the definition of ignorance, please (it deals with lack of knowledge on a particular subject matter). Stupid may be construed as a term of insult, and have no intent of calling you bad names as that is not the objective here. Ignorance is not a state of bliss, as some have so deemed it to be.

I have not heard from Pam for a couple of weeks. She has her own fish to fry dealing with the Mortgage Fraud watch list, and I applaud her efforts whether she does or does not sign the petition.

 

[CraigButterfield]

To the constructive critisism crowd,

I don’t understand why input requires a cut and paste job and a re-write from everyone. There has been some excellent advice given and Marsha outlined it (IMO). Also the suggestion to start with the appraiser’s petition and hire an attorney for the drafting are all excellent.

I just think that you guys are too caught up emotionally and are taking honest felt criticisms to much to heart.

You too Donna. You don't like the FIX it suggestion from me any more than the other 7 or 8 bashers. Start with a blank piece of white paper and FIX it, burn my copy - hire a lawyer, whatever you want to do - do it, or don't. If you truly beleive an attorney will get it right then you and Dave ougtta be on the phone looking for one. From my experiences, they are either ambulance chasers, divorce lawyers or criminal lawyers, and most of all crooks. Literary artists they are not.

If NO constructive critisicm is found from those who complain, and who do absolutly nothing to re-write, change it or repair what to them appears to be in error. Then find something else to occupy your time.

At this junture, it will in all probabilty be published as it stands. I DID respond to Kevin Macnamaras points in thread 201. The reponses were on the money, and Kevin in turn responded to Kerry Langers e-mail, as he seemed to have no response to my response in thread 201.

I think Kevin was the guy who wanted 75% of the document deleted. Here's an insult for you Kevin. Is that how you write your description of the improvements on your appraisl reports (holding down the delete key)

I fired a trainee two years ago. He loved to use the delete key on the appraisal, it was a whole lot less work than actually having to write and think.

Peace be with you, as you are regulated once and for all out of this profession, or squeezed so hard you bleed as you agree to work for 100 bucks a job. Rush Rush Rush - The AMC will not tolerate a late report. CB

 

[kerrylanger]

A couple of people have suggested hiring an attorney to help with the petition. Just out of curiosity, who was the attorney for the appraiser petition on this site? Maybe that attorney could help with a final draft.

 

[Head Surfer]

This thread has sunk to personal insults now because someone either agrees or disagrees. Since we can not discuss it without keeping it purely professional I am closing it.

Please do not start another thread on this subject.