ABOLISH and OUTLAW bank owned/affiliated and/or contracted management companies.

[CraigButterfield]

The petition

for starters eliminate the following

A- it is a mess
B- your congressman will get a headache reading it(I did)
C-they will view this entire section as the rambings of a malcontent

Well Kevin, I respect your input as you came to the table and actually suggested something.

The points you have suggested be eliminated, are the points that are

1) Causing an illegal restraint of trade, and damaging the livlihood of those in the appraisal profession - I can not see eliminating that.
2) Damage to principals; the consumer - I seek to rally consumer protection lawyers, which will in due course take place.Though I see you are well meaning, that point is in fact a major part of the AMC probem, "consumer protection", and if for that reason, and that reason alone, these AMC's will be dismantled.l

 

[CraigButterfield]

Aren't you the appraiser hiding out in the Virgin Islands?

Please don't do anything on my behalf.

This reminds me so much of the AGA modus operandi from 10 years ago. They would produce low-quality communication – and I am not just talking about “typos.” And they would hit every dissenting person the same rhetorical barrages you see here. If you don’t see it their way right off, you are deficient in character.

I suppose if we were all truck drivers, you could make us sign something by burning some of our trucks as an example to the others, or by physically attacking us while we worked. Without those options, you are going to have to be intellectually persuasive to survive.

It seems an impossible task to convince Congress of something that is untrue – that it is inherently evil for banks outsource the grunt work of selecting field appraisers, reviewing their work, and having the work guaranteed.

Nuff said.

 

[CraigButterfield]

What would YOUR draft look like Dave?

Another thing that Mr. Roscoe has done is to act in a professional and noncondescending manner. Many people on this forum are activists and very anti-AMC, and you're out there calling then whiners and bashers.

Realize that what you experience on this forum is absolutely nothing compared to what you experience if you had to answer to Congress...but you don't have to worry about that, because the way the petition is written it's not going to get Congressional attention. If you're serious about this, I'd recommend hiring an attorney that has specialty in that area. Guaranteed their draft won't look anything like yours.

Hire the lawyers? You like to write Dave. You have thousands of posts on this forum. Whip up your rendition for the petition.

 

[The Warrior Monk]

Hire the lawyers? You like to write Dave. You have thousands of posts on this forum. Whip up your rendition for the petition.

You are apparently paying not attention to my posts. If I was petitioning on behalf of large group of individuals or an organization, I would

1. Hire an attorney, since I have no experience in the presentation of such documents to Congress (nor do you, obviously);
2. Play the role of PC person.

 

[CraigButterfield]

The Petition

You are apparently paying not attention to my posts. If I was petitioning on behalf of large group of individuals or an organization, I would

1. Hire an attorney, since I have no experience in the presentation of such documents to Congress (nor do you, obviously);
2. Play the role of PC person.

Many people in this world are problem oriented, some people in this world are solution oriented. I believe I am the latter. The former are revealing themselves.

Well allright Dave, you too have come to the table. If you think there is merit for some type of petition regarding this subject, then by all means, YOU can hire a lawyer, if YOU feel that is the appropriate solution.

 

[kerrylanger]

Craig, maybe you should just publish the petition and not worry about trying to convince the six or seven people on here that it is a good idea. Many people have been following this thread and I'm pretty sure that they can tell by the posts that the negative ones are just what they are, negative.

Anyone with a brain can tell you are trying to help appraisers. It seems the same people keep posting their hot air and have even admitted to not reading the most recent edition of the petition. I believe you will get a lot of signatures regardless of what the minority is saying. Maybe they are jealous that they did not think of it in the first place. Who knows why some people have to be so negative.

 

[Kevin Mc]

Now that is funny.

Maybe they are jealous that they did not think of it in the first place. Who knows why some people have to be so negative.

This petition was presented to the forum for constructive criticism, Many have offered as much. If it unacceptable to Craig and the various other authors so be it. Jealous? negative? Get real Kerry. I could care less at this point if the petition goes any further but as I stated, it reads like the ramblings of a malcontent. Sign it, send it. If you want constructive criticism, many will offer it. If you chose to ignore it then just move on and do your thing. Trying to convince myself or others on this forum that this document as it is is the Magna Carta of the appraisal profession seems rather counterproductive. Good luck with it.

 

[The Warrior Monk]

Many people in this world are problem oriented, some people in this world are solution oriented. I believe I am the latter. The former are revealing themselves.

There are a wide variety of persons that object...Pamela Crowley won't sign it...is she "the former?"

Well allright Dave, you too have come to the table. If you think there is merit for some type of petition regarding this subject, then by all means, YOU can hire a lawyer, if YOU feel that is the appropriate solution.

You're making the erroneous assumption that your path is the only way to enlightenment. I don't need a petition and I don't need a union. I don't like AMCs so I don't work for them. If everyone took my course of action AMCs would change their ways or go out of business.

 

[Stone]

It seems the same people keep posting their hot air and have even admitted to not reading the most recent edition of the petition.

Who? Who do you think hasn't read the recent edition? You and Larry have said the same thing, but I don't see anyone commenting who hasn't read it.

If you are going to attack folks who disagree with you, name them instead of taking vague shots.

Seems to me that there have only been a few people here defending this poorly written (and, IMO, ill-conceived) petition. By your logic, that means all the others don't agree with it. Now, I don't buy that - I'm guessing many agree with it. But, it is as logical a conclusion to draw as your theory about only a few commenting in a negative manner meaning everyone else agrees with it.

I think you are right, though, Kerry. It is time for Craig to put it up there and see how it goes. I could be waaaaaayyyy in the minority and it might be something you all want.

 

[Mr Rex]