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All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

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I wonder ... with all the taxation and regulation aimed at carbon ... can people that live in rural areas continue to burn wood or coal? Just like the Bureau of firearms, tobacco and alcohol was setup to control and collect taxes, maybe we will have a new government cabinet post: The Bureau of Carbon and Green energy. It works directly for the U.S. Treasury. Just like revenuers comb the hills of Tennessee for illegal alcohol, revenuers will comb the plains for illegal carbon burning and not paying the green tax. :ROFLMAO:

I am sure I could generate enough electricity to run some type of Heat Pump(heat/cool) on a small frame 12-14 inch walled house for me to live in.
 
The above is the sort of absurd alarmist that turns people off, and should. Look at Gore and others prediction that it would be "too late" if we didn't act by 2000, 2005, 2010, 2015, ad nauseam. And sweeping the tide back with a broom is nonsense. As for displacing people, when you build in a delta (think New Orleans, etc.) and then starve the basin for silt, you get the predictable results, sinking deltas.

am sure I could generate enough electricity to run some type of Heat Pump(heat/cool) on a small frame 12-14 inch walled house for me to live in.

1 Ton AC units existed but are so rarely used, most manufacturers eschew making them. But they could exist and a house can be built in a way that 1 T is sufficient to heat and cool the whole building.
 
The Great Climate Change Hoax Has Reached a New Level of Deceit
The World Bank is warning us that the Great Climate Change Hoax has reached a new level of sophistication and deceit. Grant-fattened scientists will scour the globe, covertly impoverishing millions of people in furtherance of their anti-capitalist, anti-freedom agenda
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39555/climate-change-100-million-poverty/

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Not to be all apocalyptic or anything, but do you know what happens when there are millions of desperate, starving people? Wars happen. Brutal, vicious wars, fought with rocks and clubs and whatever else is at hand. War and hunger feed on each other until there's nothing left to devour. Civilizations break down this way. Those sneaky scientists should stop what they're doing with their scam. Someone might get hurt.

Really funny that war and hunger go together however, connecting temperature as the cause make the hyperbole that more hilarious. Next thing you know global warming causes extreme flatulence .... no, that should be the other way round.
 
Shift to Lower-Carbon Energy Is Too Slow, Report Warns

LONDON — Even as the world shifts toward lower-carbon forms of energy, the changes are happening too slowly to keep global temperatures from rising to dangerous levels in the coming decades, an international research group warns in a report released on Tuesday.

And low oil prices could make the problem worse by slowing the planet’s transition to cleaner and more efficient cars, trucks and aircraft, according to the report, by the International Energy Agency. The group represents nearly 30 countries and aims to promote secure and environmentally sustainable global energy.

“Now is not the time to relax,” Fatih Birol, the agency’s executive director, said in a statement accompanying the report.

The group, based in Paris, said in its annual “World Energy Outlook” that Asian countries like India and China could play a big role in determining how successfully the world combats climate change.

Even so, the report warned, “a major course correction is still required to achieve the world’s agreed climate goal” of limiting global warming to about 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit above preindustrial 19th-century levels.

“As the largest source of global greenhouse gas emissions, the energy sector must be at the heart of global action to tackle climate change,” Mr. Birol said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/b..._th_20151110&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=50329110

The great recession of 2008 caused a reduction in human CO2 emissions, worldwide. So anything that can cause negative GDP growth reduces human CO2 emissions.

The problem with falling oil prices is twofold: It is a symptom of falling GDP growth. It also means that green energy, when compared to the price of fossil fuels, does not make economic sense and won't be adopted. Green energy needs $100+ a barrel oil in order to justify using it instead of oil.
 
Oil Price Drop Threatens Industries That Help Cut Global Warming

  • International Energy Agency sees threat to clean energy
  • Oil at $50 would wipe out $800 billion of efficiency measures

The plunge in oil prices risks undermining efforts to reduce the pollution blamed for global warming, especially projects designed to wring more from each barrel of oil, the International Energy Agency concluded in its annual assessment of markets.

If the cost of crude remains near $50 a barrel until the end of the decade, cheaper conventional fuels would hold back the development of electric cars and biofuels that are helping curb carbon emissions, IEA said. It also estimated about $800 billion of efficiency improvements in cars, trucks and airplanes would be lost.

The findings illustrate the complexity of the United Nations mission to secure a historic deal on reining in fossil-fuel emissions by the end of the year. While lower oil prices are helping the world recover from an economic slump, they’re also raising competitive pressures on technologies such as wind and solar power and making some projects take longer to pay off.
“Lower prices are not all good news for consumers,” the Paris-based institution wrote in its annual World Energy Outlook released Tuesday.“Longer payback periods mean that the world misses out on almost 15 percent of energy savings.”

Oil’s drop from a peak of more than $140 a barrel in 2008 has been paired with drops in coal and natural gas prices, the main fuels for power generation that compete with wind and solar. Making gasoline cheaper at the pump favors oil over biofuels manufactured from crops such as sugarcane and corn, the IEA said.

The bigger impact is on measures to make energy consumption more efficient. Lower fossil-fuel prices extend the calculation of how long it takes projects to recoup their costs. The IEA said those measures are having a significant impact on total demand, and have provided a “tantalizing hint” of “a de-coupling in the relationship between CO2 emissions and economic activity.”

This year’s outlook envisioned energy demand rising by a third between 2013 and 2040, with a weaker link between growth and pollution levels. China and India have joined the U.S. and European Union in implementing efficiency rules, making more than a third of countries covered, up from 3 percent in 2005, the IEA said. It expects the policies to expand in the coming years.

“Lower oil prices alone do not have a large impact on the deployment of renewable energy technologies in the power sector, but only if policy makers remain steadfast in providing the necessary market rules, policies and subsidies,” the report said.

Renewables took almost half of the new investment in power generation last year and will overtake coal as the largest source of electricity by the early 2030s, taking a market share of 50 percent in the EU by 2040, 30 percent in China and Japan and 25 percent in the U.S. and India, the IEA estimated.

Those investments help hold the global increase in temperatures to 2.7 degrees Celsius (4.8 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the IEA’s calculation. That’s more than the 2-degree target adopted by the UN but less than estimates of more than 4 degrees that scientists warned are likely if no action was taken.

“As the largest source of global greenhouse gas emissions, the energy sector must be at the heart of global action to tackle climate change,” IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol said in a statement.

The coverage of mandatory energy efficiency regulation worldwide expanded to more than a quarter of global consumption.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...atens-industries-that-help-cut-global-warming

When a person is a billionaire, spending $100,000 means nothing since s/he can easily afford to do so (they buy Tesla cars). However, a person making $50,000 can't afford that kind of extravagance. But that is necessary to save the planet by enforcing green energy policies. So the middle-class in this country opts for that polluting gas powered car and other carbon powered appliances such as heat.
 
Shift to Lower-Carbon Energy Is Too Slow, Report Warns

LONDON — Even as the world shifts toward lower-carbon forms of energy, the changes are happening too slowly to keep global temperatures from rising to dangerous levels in the coming decades, an international research group warns in a report released on Tuesday.

Okay, I hate to be the spoiler here, but,

Didn't we already have research that showed that sapling trees leaf out earlier than mature trees and thus, take up CO2 for longer periods than mature trees?

Yet, we are cutting down trees to plant solar panels.

If we are not soaking up CO2 fast enough, where are the tree planting campaigns? Why are the highway medians not planted with every tree possible? They don't want us to drive anyway, plant trees on that open space. Where are the mandates to remove damaged roadways in place of gravel tree lined roads? Why are we fixing roads instead of planting trees? Obviously we have nowhere to go anyway, why burn fuel to fix roads?

Oh.

Maybe some road construction companies are pets of politicians.

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Oil Price Drop Threatens Industries That Help Cut Global Warming

  • International Energy Agency sees threat to clean energy
  • Oil at $50 would wipe out $800 billion of efficiency measures.
Uhm, just a small observation,

Solar panels exist to cut back on electric production from fossil fuels.

Electric utilities whine that they lose too much money by allowing people to have net metering, and therefore have to charge them more for grid maintenance,

yet,

It is cheaper to produce electricity because of the price of oil, than it has been in several decades.
Wages have been stagnant for just about a decade so labor costs have not increased.
According to Zillow, there isn't enough shadow inventory or vacant inventory to keep home prices from rising, hence, more homes have occupants using electricity, than they did since 2008.

I just don't see where the electric companies are losing any money to solar panel households. Even though the price of oil and coal are very low, and wages are stagnant, they still keep raising the rates.

We are in the intersection of a crush of lies coming to light.

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If we are not soaking up CO2 fast enough, where are the tree planting campaigns? Why are the highway medians not planted with every tree possible?

They really don't care about soaking up carbon dioxide. What they care about is telling you that you cannot emit carbon dioxide. And if you do, you have to pay for that pollution.
 
I just don't see where the electric companies are losing any money to solar panel households. Even though the price of oil and coal are very low, and wages are stagnant, they still keep raising the rates.

We are in the intersection of a crush of lies coming to light.

The paradox is created with the intention to mislead you and your thinking that anyone cares about you, least of all your utility company followed by your government.
 
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