All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

[Pittsburgh Pete]

So you don't have an answer? Didn't think so.

 

[Carnivore]

Looking at the history of foreign aid to third world countries, any Environmental foreign aid will end up in the wrong pockets and not used for its intended purpose. Recent example is Haiti, where it was devastated by hurricanes and a hundreds of millions of dollars was sent in to help rebuild the island. We all know what did not happen. Its still a craphole.

I have little faith that this outcome will not be repeated.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Thinking with no knowledge or foundation of a subject leads to beliefs not found in reality.

 

[Carnivore]

Thinking with no knowledge or foundation of a subject leads to beliefs not found in reality.

Apparently the majority of citizens in Pittsburgh are not taking it very seriously either. Good Grief, the sixth filthiest city in the US. It would be interesting to see if they qualify and what their ranking would be for inclusion on the third world Country Environmental Foreign Aid List

 

[Meandering]

During which of the prior eight times were there over one billion automobiles, millions of industrial plants, a population at current levels............? One would think, if one does think and not just spew ideological talking points, that such factors would have a significant impact.

I'm trying to discern your position, based on your questions.

Are you trying to imply that;
"That warming is the natural course of things since the end of the Ice Ages and the receding Ice sheets beginning about 15,000 years ago. This has happened at least 8 times in the past 250,000 years."

Did not happen because there were not;
"one billion automobiles, millions of industrial plants, a population at current levels"?

Or are you saying it will not happen again because of:
"one billion automobiles, millions of industrial plants, a population at current levels"?

Or are you saying that because of:
"one billion automobiles, millions of industrial plants, a population at current levels"
It will happen again, and has nothing to do with the normal cycles of the planet?

One would think, if one does think and not just spew ideological talking points, that such factors would have a significant impact
I agree you are spewing, but can't find any ideology in your spewing. Could you be more specific please. I'm still just a blonde.

Thanks.

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[Randolph Kinney]

solar energy socialism

President Barack Obama recently made headlines in Nevada by promoting the “progress” his administration has made in promoting solar power and fighting climate change. Most media outlets conveniently forgot to mention one crucial fact: Without government mandates, subsidies, and sweetheart deals, the sun would quickly set on Obama’s solar empire.

The administration has taken a two-pronged, carrot-and-stick approach to propping up the solar industrial complex. Carrots have been lavished on the solar industry by encouraging states to enact policies such as renewable energy mandates, which require a certain percentage of the electricity generated in the state come from renewable sources, and net-metering policies, which subsidize wealthy rooftop solar owners at the expense of middle- and low-income families.

Taxpayers have been bilked for billions of dollars for decades so politicians could funnel money into solar firms like Solyndra, which a new investigation by the Inspector General of the Department of Energy (DOE) confirms engaged in a “pattern of false and misleading assertions” to win a loan guarantee from DOE. The Inspector General also said DOE failed to do its job in vetting the loan, because of pressure from the White House.

Despite all these carrots, solar produces just 0.4 percent of the electricity generated in the United States, according to the Energy Information Administration, which is why Obama is increasingly turning toward using the stick.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has wielded those sticks, circumventing congressional authority in order to punish conventional sources of energy such as coal, natural gas, and oil by saddling them with a series of costly, burdensome regulations. Those regulations, such as the Clean Power Plan and new rules regulating methane from hydraulic fracturing sites, drive up the cost of energy while providing no benefit to the environment.

An analysis by the Cato Institute, using EPA’s own climate models, showed the carbon dioxide emissions reductions forced by the Clean Power Plan would offset only 0.02 degrees C of anticipated warming by the year 2100, an amount so small it falls below the margin of error for the model, meaning this plan would cost billions of dollars and drive up energy costs for no measurable benefit. The increase in costs will hit low-income families the hardest, a fact even EPA boss Gina McCarthy has admitted. Maybe that’s what Obama means when he claims he stands up for the middle class.

The Obama administration is subjecting the energy sector to the same harmful ideology that has stagnated the overall economy (except for oil and natural gas development from fracking, ironically). He is attempting to build up the weak—solar and wind—by tearing down the strong. Obama’s plan is to build up inefficient and costly forms of energy by tearing down reliable and affordable energy sources.

Obama’s solar energy socialism will not lead to a utopia of cheap energy but will instead drive up costs for U.S. households and businesses and further tank the nation’s economy along with the forms of energy we depend on to power our hospitals, schools, and refrigerators. All of that will accomplish nothing for the environment.

The solar industry gets the carrots, and the rest of us get the sticks.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/254987-obamas-solar-energy-socialism

 

[Meandering]

Apparently the majority of citizens in Pittsburgh are not taking it very seriously either. Good Grief, the sixth filthiest city in the US. It would be interesting to see if they qualify and what their ranking would be for inclusion on the third world Country Environmental Foreign Aid List

Heyna,
Youse guys shouldn't pick on PA. We have good clean water, lots of it, and we take care of po' folks. A shovel, a pick, a nice new shiny hat with a flashlight on top, all taken care of.

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[Terrel L. Shields]

By 2100, according to some estimates, the temperature will rise by 1.5 degrees C. (some alarmists claim 4 C.) and sea level will rise by 1 meter. But when calculating the Kyoto agreement goals, the reduction in green house gases in going to have less than 0.1 degree impact upon the climate. Why bother... assuming this is even true?

The initial goal was to cut CO2 emissions by 12%...by 2012 and without the goal, the US and Europe has met those standards without Kyoto. China and India ? nope. So is 100% CO2 reduction possible? Probably not. At best it might slow the warming slightly.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

we take care of po' folks. A shovel, a pick, a nice new shiny hat with a flashlight on top, all taken care of.

I thought you was going to say orange vests and a hard hat.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

How polluted is the Pittsburgh region?

When it comes to the particulate matter, PM2.5, Pittsburgh is the sixth most polluted city in the United States and the most polluted city east of California, the American Lung Association says.

But the big question has been how these pollution levels of particulate matter, or PM2.5, affect specific municipalities in Allegheny County and city neighborhoods. Albert A. Presto, a research professor in Carnegie Mellon University’s Center for Atmospheric Particle Studies, finally has some answers.

Maps he’s generated after monitoring air pollution levels at 70 key sites countywide for two years reveal levels of black carbon, which is a component of PM2.5; sulfur dioxide (SOX), nitric oxide (NOX), carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, benzene and toluene, among others. Ozone levels were measured but not mapped.

Mr. Presto, who holds a Ph.D. in chemical engineering, will present his air-quality maps during a free public forum 7 p.m. tonight at the First Unitarian Church of Pittsburgh, 605 Morewood Ave., Shadyside.

Deborah Gentile, an asthma and allergy physician at Allegheny General Hospital; Ted Popovich of Allegheny County Clean Air Now; and Stephen Riccardi, a field associate with Penn Environment, also will make presentations during the forum.

The black-carbon map, for example, shows high pollution levels concentrated in industrial sites and along heavily traveled roadways. But one conclusion is clear: Pittsburgh’s three rivers are pollution highways.

“You see heavy loading of pollution in valleys,” said Philip Johnson, director of the Heinz Endowments’ Breathe Project. The Endowments funded Mr. Presto’s research. “We all worry about black carbon because it is a significant contributor to climate change and health problems with associations to many adverse health outcomes from birth to death, including reproductive outcomes, heart attacks and stroke, and exacerbation of [Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease] and asthma.”

Pollution concentrations in river valleys, he said, should raise public concern about parks, bicycle trails and recreational facilities along the rivers, he said.

“We are encouraging people to go outside, to recreate, play and enjoy parks,” Mr. Johnson said. “But what can the city say about itself if it has the highest levels of black carbon in the most intimate areas of human experience? You have pollution trapped in areas where people live, work and play.”

In coming phases of pollution mapping, the project will identify specific sources of pollution and human exposure levels to show “where it is, where it is coming from, and whom it is affecting,” Mr. Johnson said.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/en...ew-pollution-maps-public/stories/201502110023

I wonder if Pete has something similar to California for the environmentally conscious on his diesel powered SUV?