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Well, maybe earthquakes caused the rivers to flow backwards
The Mississippi flowed backwards in 1811-1812 during the New Madrid Quake. After a few hours, it reversed course and gained speed back downstream. Apparently a small waterfall developed along a scarp and the river finally eroded it enough and backfilled until it resumed its course.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/0494/report.pdf
 
No no no! It was forest fires that man caused to emit copious amount of CO2. :rof:

Donald Patten proposes a completely different theory as to the cause of the ice age, one that involves a catastrophe of global proportions. Although his idea seems to be as much theologically driven as scientific, he puts forth a well researched and plausible explanation of the affects a comet “near miss” would have on earth’s climate. He also discusses motives and beliefs, almost a creationist’s rebuttal to geologic uniformitarianism, and provides a history of scientists and writers espousing a catastrophic approach to earth geology.

The phenomenon that provides Patten and others with some punch to their proposition is the bizarre evidence of the frozen mammoths, which is still a mystery today. Although mammoths are not the sole animals that have been found frozen (rhinoceros, sheep, horses, oxen, lions, tigers, and bison have also been found), as an extinct species, they have been at the forefront of scientific research. Their remains, sometimes whole, have been found in Siberia and Alaska by the tens of thousands and have provided the world with an ongoing supply of ivory.

Russia has a long tradition in providing ivory from Siberian islands for the past 2,000 years. Between 1880 and 1900, nearly 20,000 tusks were taken from a single island. It is estimated that there may be up to 3 million mammoths still buried in Siberia.

And we thought cow farts were a problem Think about 3 million mammoth farts! Could have changed the orbit of the planet.


According to a National Geographic article, experts estimate that there are 600,000 tons of ivory still available for recovery. A sudden calamity, such as an asteroid impact or comet near miss, fares well in explaining the death of millions of animals. Its precedent is seen in the greatest extinction of all at the end of the Cretaceous Period, when a giant asteroid impact resulted in the extinction of dinosaurs.

Patten also explains, in his comet near-miss theory, the formation of mountain ranges and why they are distributed in an arc across the continents. When this icy visitor came too close to Earth, it became trapped in orbit for a period of nine months, circling as another moon. On two occasions when it came quite close, its gravitational pull exerted extreme force, not only on the oceans, which created giant tidal waves, but also on the earth’s molten core. Magma in the core reacted in much the same way as the oceans do to a gravitation force. As a result with each close pass of the comet, a wave of molten rock was pulled upward forcing the earth’s crust upward.

As this comet danced in Earth’s orbit, ice that had broken away from its mass was deposited in vast quantities through electromagnetic defection. According to Patten’s theory, six million cubic miles of ice was dumped on the northern and southern hemispheres each; ice that’s temperature was –150o. At the center nodes, the ice would have been three miles thick and feathering out at the edges. The ice appeared suddenly, not over a long period of time. Only this, according to the theory, accounts for the sudden freezing of millions of animals.

He also argues that the shape of the ice sheets fits the comet near miss theory. The continent-sized glaciers of the ice age were thickest at the center. From today’s climate in Antarctica, we know that very little snow falls at the center of the continent due to the cold dry air’s inability to retain moisture. It is a desert wasteland of rock and gravel. On the edges, however, there is substantial snowfall because of the convergence of warm, moist air with cold air. If snow were to be the primary factor in creating the ice of the ice age, then its accumulation would be thickest at the periphery and not the center.

One of the most intriguing human elements of Charles Hapgood’s wandering pole theory is that Albert Einstein believed researching the subject was desirable and that it “would not be justified to discard the idea a priori as adventurous.” Einstein’s letter to Charles Hapgood, dated November 24, 1952 is published in his book Path of the Pole.

I frequently receive communications from people who wish to consult me concerning their unpublished ideas. It goes without saying that these ideas are very seldom possessed of scientific validity. The very first communication, however, that I received from Mr. Hapgood electrified me. His idea is original, of great simplicity, and – if it continues to prove itself – of great importance to everything that is related to the history of the earth’s surface.
–Albert Einstein

Hapgood’s theory began with an interest in geography and ancient maps, which led to his re-discovery of the Piri Reis Map, a hand drawn Turkish naval map that had been gathering dust since the 16th century. According to its sources, the map was drawn a few years after Columbus launched his first voyage to the Americas. Admiral Piri Reis, cartographer of the map, noted that his world map was derived from very old reference maps. Upon close inspection, Hapgood noticed evidence of spherical trigonometry in the map’s layout and a detailed knowledge of global geography that included the coastline of Antarctica at some remote time when it was free of ice. The map was accurate at a time when no one should have known the coastal areas of Antarctica. This prompted Hapgood to search for an explanation that eventually led to his controversial theory.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iceage.htm

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No, no,
The world was flat, Columbus knew that.

What do you mean thousands of animals instantly died? it just snowed for months

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In Hapgood’s opinion, the centrifugal momentum of ice caps, eccentric to the poles, provides this force. The weight of the ice on the poles creates an imbalance in the Earth's rotation. Eventually, this builds to a point where a change is required to correct the imbalance. Hapgood realized that the entire planet did not need to be repositioned around its axis to maintain its balance.

Only the outer crust needed to move, just as the loose skin of a peeled orange can slide around the inner fruit. He envisioned a catastrophic and dramatic move of the entire crust that allowed the polar ice caps to melt in a new, warmer climate. Ice would then begin to build at the new poles, awaiting the next shift.

Mammoth farts

The crust’s rapid movement, of course, would create environmental mayhem. If the current level of seismic and volcanic activity were a result of plates shifting between one and four centimeters per year, a much faster rate of change would likely be apocalyptic.

Whatever way the poles shifted, regional climates everywhere would change dramatically. The displaced polar ice would melt, causing incredible floods. The new polar areas would freeze in a relatively short amount of time, almost instantly killing life that was accustomed to a warmer climate. Areas of climatic convergence would shift; deserts would receive rain while rainforests would become deserts. Plant and animal life would need to adapt to the new conditions or become extinct. The evidence suggests as much.

Frozen deposits of soil, rock, plant and animal remains exist in Alaska, commonly known as “muck.” University of New Mexico Professor Frank Hibben explains that:

In many places, Alaskan muck is packed with animal bones and debris in trainload lots. Bones of mammoths, mastodons, several kind of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions tell a story of a faunal population… within this frozen mass lie the twisted parts of animals and trees intermingled with lenses of ice and layers of peat and mosses. It looks as though in the midst of some cataclysmic catastrophe of ten thousand years ago the whole Alaskan world of living animals and plants was suddenly frozen in mid-motion like a grim charade…twisted and torn trees are piled in splintered masses … at least four considerable layers of volcanic ash may be traced in these deposits, although they are extremely warped and distorted.12

In Southern California’s La Brea tar pits more than 565 species of animals were fossilized in the sticky tar (asphalt) some 10,000 years ago.


During the first excavation in 1906, scientists found a bone bed that contained over seven hundred saber-toothed tiger skulls. Combined with wolf skulls, they averaged twenty per cubic yard.

So if they died instantaneously California was over populated with species of dogs and cats. Alpo farts.

There existed more bones than tar and were discovered “broken, mashed, contorted and mixed in a most heterogeneous mass,” nearly identical to the muck of Alaska. 100,000 fossilized birds were also recovered representing over 138 species, 19 of which are extinct.

During the same period of time mammoths were being killed in a similar fashion. John Massey, of the Smithsonian, estimated that more than 500,000 tons of mammoth tusks were buried along Siberia’s Arctic coastline. Several dozen frozen mammoth carcasses have been found with the flesh still intact, such as the Jarkov Mammoth. They died suddenly, and found in their stomachs was undigested plant matter that included grass, bluebells, wild beans and buttercups. Scientists have concluded that some of the mammoths died of asphyxiation, but in general the cause of death has not been determined.

But they died while eating, which does not suggest prolonged pain and disease.

A pole shift from the Hudson Bay to its current position would explain the mysterious extinction and mass burials that occurred at the end of the Pleistocene. During the Hudson Bay pole, the North Siberian coastline would have had the same latitude as Japan does today, far outside of the Arctic Circle. But when the poles shifted, the climate would have rapidly changed within a matter of days, from a summer savannah where mammoths grazed to a frozen wasteland.

In his theory, Hapgood also explains the mountain building forces as a function of gravity. Although the forces that build a mountain are obviously complex, the principles are simple to explain. As an area of land moves towards the pole, the radii of the earth are shorter, the circumference is shorter, and the surface required is less. (Polar and equatorial circumference differ by 13 miles.) A surplus of surface exists, and this, being pulled down by gravity, must fold. Mountains are not being pushed up, but the surface is being pulled down nearer to the earth’s core.

The force of gravity over a large area folds the surface in a small area to accommodate its new position on the globe. In the opposite direction, as land moves away from the pole, it must expand. Major parallel faults will occur with minor faults at right angles. Where these faults occur molten rock from below fills up the crevasse.

According to Hapgood, the movements of land to and away from the equator over millions of years, have produced the mountain ranges we admire today. While
the Himalayas, according to the theory proposed by Maureen Raymo at Boston University, grew, massive amounts of rock were exposed to the elements. As monsoon rains soaked the land and combined with carbon dioxide, the face of the exposed rock eroded. This process of chemical weathering extracted so much carbon dioxide from the atmosphere that global temperatures dropped thus triggering an ice age. To show that this was the case Raymo turned to the study of seafloor sediments and strontium.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=vmn&type=nasdaqyatb&p=last ice age, global map

And there you have it. CO2 reduced by weathering rocks.

But wait, how did all that CO2 produce a DROP in temperature, triggering an ice age?

The plot thickens.
 
As monsoon rains soaked the land and combined with carbon dioxide, the face of the exposed rock eroded. This process of chemical weathering extracted so much carbon dioxide from the atmosphere that global temperatures dropped thus triggering an ice age.

What carbon dioxide? Where did that come from? Dead creatures?


There are several types (isotopes) of strontium, each with a different atomic mass. Strontium-87, a heavier variety, is washed into the sea by the chemical weathering of rock. The lighter variety, strontium-86, is released by the spreading sea floor and comes from deep inside the earth. By comparing the amounts of the isotopes in different layers, Raymo believed that she would learn which process was more active at any point in time. Thirty-five million years ago, strontium-87 increased dramatically, coinciding with the Himalayan uplift.

With the strontium evidence, Maureen Raymo believes she solved the ice age mystery. First, the uplift of the Tibetan region intensified the Indian monsoon. Then the monsoon rains eroded the mountains, stripping carbon dioxide from the air. Finally, with less carbon dioxide, the atmosphere gradually cooled.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iceage.htm


What carbon dioxide? Where did that come from? Not industry and human activity.

And what about this Strontium-87 washed into the sea, but the strontium-86 came from deep inside the earth? There are no dots to connect here.

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Despite Risks, Cuomo Bets on Solar Power to Lift Buffalo

On the often cloudy shores of the Buffalo River, where a steel factory once thrived, lies the rising framework of one of New York’s most ambitious economic endeavors ever: a giant solar panel factory that the state says will be the largest of its kind in the Western Hemisphere.

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has committed up to $750 million to the project, the biggest economic development effort he has undertaken in his five years as governor.

In doing so, he has not just bet big on solar energy, a competitive and rapidly growing business, but also on the success of SolarCity, a fast-growing California company that will operate out of the factory that the New York State will own.

The potential benefits seem substantial: The state has said the 1.2 million-square-foot SolarCity factory, which is scheduled to open in early 2016, will create 5,000 jobs, with 3,000 of them in western New York.

If the demand for solar power grows, and the companies the state has attracted are able to capitalize on that, then it could be well positioned to profit. Companies lured to New York by generous state grants have created jobs, often in struggling regions or cities like Buffalo. The government hopes a virtuous cycle will follow, and public money will attract private investment.

“The ultimate goal is to get these upstate economies, including Buffalo, off their backs and onto their feet and the real measure of success is private-sector job creation and investment, and I think you are seeing that,” said Howard Zemsky, chief executive of Empire State Development, the government’s economic development agency.

The project is not without risk, some of it associated with SolarCity. Its chairman is the entrepreneur Elon Musk, who also leads Tesla, the electric car company. And it could take years to assess whether the project was worthy of the praise heaped on it in 2013, when the project was announced.

Though SolarCity boasts a market capitalization of $3.8 billion and says it has roughly 14,000 employees, it has not turned an annual profit since going public in 2012. Also, the company has increasingly become a target of Wall Street short-sellers, traders who make money when a company’s stock falls in value. James S. Chanos is perhaps the best known short-seller to have targeted the stock, announcing in August that his firm had concerns about SolarCity’s business model.

Among the issues raised by investors is a federal tax credit for solar that has benefited SolarCity; the tax credit is scheduled to decrease to 10 percent from 30 percent for commercial customers in 2017 and be eliminated for homeowners.

Beyond the business risk, there is also the specter of a federal inquiry associated with the project. In late June, federal prosecutors sent out several subpoenas for documents on how the facility’s construction contracts were awarded. One avenue of investigation, according to people briefed on the matter but not authorized to speak on the record, is whether a request for proposals was written in a way that would have favored a construction company whose chief executive had donated tens of thousands of dollars to the governor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/nyregion/cuomo-bets-on-solar-power-to-get-buffalo-on-its-feet.html

With the falling price of oil and gas, pressure mounts on green energy to compete without that 30% tax credit. California has been the big loser concerning Elon Musk who did not choose California for his expansion plans for Tesla, the gigafactory and solar panel manufacturing.

Taxes matter. Green energy will find that out along with the people who bought share in SolarCity or solar panels, people who work for companies that sell green energy products and states that depend on companies not to move or expand to other states.
 
With integrity of 97% of Climate Scientists compromised, why trust any organization that promotes an unreliable, untrustworthy form of electricity generation when reliable, trustworthy ones are available?

The agenda is obvious, and politicians are always looking for dopes to support them.
 
Funny how everyone else's integrity is blemished and your agenda and those like you (pure greed, as addressing the issue could take money out of your pocket) is pristine!:rof::eyecrazy:
 
Funny how everyone else's integrity is blemished and your agenda and those like you (pure greed, as addressing the issue could take money out of your pocket) is pristine!:rof::eyecrazy:

What are you talking about?

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You are the one with the reading issues.

Where in post #826 or any other post do you find indication to solidify this statement by you that Randolph or anyone else in this forum has any money at stake in this argument?

"your agenda and those like you (pure greed, as addressing the issue could take money out of your pocket) is pristine"
 
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