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Here Are All the Senators Who Do and Don’t Believe in Human-Caused Climate Change

Fifty US senators affirmed that they indeed do believe that the activities of human beings contribute to climate change. OK. But 49 senators—fully half the upper house that represents our grand republic—do not.

http://www.wired.com/2015/01/senators-dont-believe-human-caused-climate-change/

Looks like there is an even split with senators that don't believe in human caused climate change, Pete. That's after 97% of climate scientist agree - man burning carbon is the cause of global warming and changing climates. Those senators don't believe that, wonder why? Big oil? :)

The value of super PACs?

Utility and gas companies vote too.

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Here Are All the Senators Who Do and Don’t Believe in Human-Caused Climate Change

Fifty US senators affirmed that they indeed do believe that the activities of human beings contribute to climate change. OK. But 49 senators—fully half the upper house that represents our grand republic—do not.

http://www.wired.com/2015/01/senators-dont-believe-human-caused-climate-change/

Looks like there is an even split with senators that don't believe in human caused climate change, Pete. That's after 97% of climate scientist agree - man burning carbon is the cause of global warming and changing climates. Those senators don't believe that, wonder why? Big oil? :)

Wow, amazing that all of those Senators can fit in the pockets of the Koch brothers!!:rof:

Disparage the government on one hand and use them support your denier philosophy on the other hand. At least you're consistent in your inconsistency there Randy!
 
And there are those that believe the scientific opinions of a journalism major, former TV weatherman, and host of a dance show! Of course he's credible when it comes to science!:rof:

If you still believe in 'climate change' read this…

If any business were to submit a prospectus as patently false and deliberately dishonest as the ones used to advance the cause of the global warming industry, its directors would all be in prison by now. (C Jeff Randall)

Does that mean Ed Davey should have followed Chris Huhne into the slammer for his claim to Andrew Neil on BBC Daily Politics the other day that in "a recent analysis of 12,000 climate papers…of the scientists who expressed a view 97 per cent said that climate change was happening and that it was human-made activity."?

Not quite, unfortunately, because nothing Davey has said there is technically untrue. A better candidate for prison, actually, would be whoever tweets under the name @BarackObama. When he Tweeted: "Ninety-seven percent of scientists agree: #climate change is real, man-made and dangerous" he was promulgating a demonstrable untruth.

No one has ever doubted that climate changes.

Pretty much everyone – probably more than 97 per cent, even – agrees that there is a degree of anthropogenic input, even it's just the barely measurable contribution of beef cattle farts or the heat produced by cities.

But the dangerous bit? No one has come even close to demonstrating it, there is no reliable evidence for it, and very few scientists – certainly far, far fewer than 97 per cent of them – would ever stake their reputations on such a tendentious claim.

The background to all this – and the "97 per cent of climate scientists say…." meme – is expertly covered in a new paper for the Global Warming Policy Foundation by Andrew Montford.

In a sane world it wouldn't have needed writing. An obscure green political activist called John Cook and a few of his eco-cronies produced a pseudo-scientific paper so riddled with flaws that it ought to have been tossed straight in the bin. Instead, it was bigged up by a compliant mainstream media, a desperate and propaganda-hungry green industry, and by the US President as a vitally significant meta-analysis offering indisputable proof of the scientific "consensus" on "climate change."

Montford concludes:

The consensus as described by the survey is virtually meaningless and tells us nothing about the current state of scientific opinion beyond the trivial observation that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and that human activities have warmed the planet to some unspecified extent. The survey methodology therefore fails to address the key points that are in dispute in the global warming debate."

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...ou-still-believe-in-climate-change-read-this/

Gee, someone in the press called the name @BarackObama a liar and seems to believe the opposite of what you believe. :)
 
Wow, amazing that all of those Senators can fit in the pockets of the Koch brothers!!:rof:

Disparage the government on one hand and use them support your denier philosophy on the other hand. At least you're consistent in your inconsistency there Randy!

At least you are consistent in your denial and believe the Koch brothers have bought 49 senators. Wow, what a conspiracy, Pete.

Disparage the government you voted for, hey Pete? I don't vote, remember?
 
Wow, amazing that all of those Senators can fit in the pockets of the Koch brothers!!:rof:

Disparage the government on one hand and use them support your denier philosophy on the other hand. At least you're consistent in your inconsistency there Randy!

Here Are the 56 Percent of Congressional Republicans Who Deny Climate Change

Climate change is happening, humans are the cause, and a shocking number of congressional Republicans — over 56 percent — deny or question the science.

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All told, 170 elected representatives.

http://billmoyers.com/2015/02/03/congress-climate-deniers/

So 49 senators and 170 representatives reject man caused global warming or climate change. The Koch brothers have a very big reach over the political spectrum, almost as big as George Soros and Tom Steyer.

Yet, we see that you are in the pocket of the left. Your belief has nothing to do with science or even a rudimentary understanding of science. :)
 
"TONOPAH — After four years and almost $1 billion, the Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Plant 225 miles northwest of Las Vegas delivered its first megawatts to the grid during a test run on Oct. 11.

The facility still isn't fully operational, but Painter said it is now in the final stages of startup. By early next year, he expects it to be delivering full power to NV Energy, which has agreed to buy the plant's entire load at 13.5 cents per kilowatt hour — roughly twice the cost of power from a natural-gas fueled plant — for 25 years.

Meanwhile, outside pressure is mounting on the project, which was built on public land with the help of $737 million in federal loan guarantees."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/water-environment/solar-plant-shines-the-end-tonopahs-tunnel-video
 
anyone you haven't called a liar yet? :rof: give my best to the other cranky old guys @ McDonalds!
 
I think that as more solar options are used, it will cause standard electricity rates to go up. The problem with solar energy is that you create battery waste that goes in a land fill. I think that we probably can't do much about the rest of the world regarding global warming. I don't know enough to make a decision about whether it exists or not. I think that we should focus on what we can do for air quality, underground leaking storage tanks, failing septic systems and water quality. If it were up to me more money would be redirected from FEMA and the military budget and funneled to the EPA, refuse departments, and water agencies.
 
No free lunch from utilities dooms solar panel sales


One of the Obama administration’s climate goals is for 30 percent of America’s electricity to be generated using solar energy by 2050. That is likely to include the installation of solar panels on the roofs of millions of American homes in the coming decades.

But as falling solar panel prices and concerns about the climate spur a rush to install rooftop solar in many states, some utilities have begun charging a variety of complicated fees that are leading to a chilling effect on the home solar power markets in those regions.

Though most utilities have not imposed rooftop fees, some that are considering them or have already imposed the fees have seen a stark drop in the number of homeowners applying to install solar panels, especially in Oklahoma and parts of Arizona.

The Salt River Project, a regional utility in Arizona, imposed a new rate structure on “self generation” customers earlier this year as a way to recoup some of the costs generated when customers sell power back to SRP. In the year immediately prior to implementing the fees, SRP received an average of 600 new rooftop solar applications per month. Today, it receives 25 applications per month, SRP spokesman Scott Harelson said.

The utility’s decision to implement demand and power distribution charges spurred one of the country’s largest rooftop solar panel installers, Solar City, to relocate 85 of its 800 Arizona workers out of state. The company also filed suit, calling SRP’s charges “anti-competitive.”

New rooftop solar applications in SRP territory plummeted roughly 95 percent after SRP announced its terms for new solar customers,” Solar City spokesman Nate Watters said. “We seek to get those fees removed and look forward to showing that utilities cannot exploit their monopoly power to try to eliminate competition from rooftop solar.”

Just this year, at least five states from Florida to Arizona have implemented or are considering a variety of new fees for homes with solar panels connected to the grid.

Arizona Public Service Co., for example, is considering increasing its existing monthly charge of 70 cents per kilowatt of installed rooftop photovoltaic capacity to $3 per kilowatt. UniSource Energy Services, also in Arizona, is considering a monthly charge of between $6 and $10 per kilowatt. A proposal by New Mexico’s largest utility would charge $6 per kilowatt.

The average size of a rooftop solar array is 5 kilowatts.

In Oklahoma, Gov. Mary Fallin signed a bill into law last year after lawmakers worried that rooftop solar customers were not paying their share of the cost for the utility to maintain the power lines.

Oklahoma Gas and Electric has fewer than 300 rooftop solar customers among the 750,000 it serves. Since the law took effect, that number has not been growing.

“Inquiries have chilled dramatically,” Steve Wilke, founder of rooftop solar installer Delta Energy and Design in Norman, Okla., said. “People just think that there’s no way solar can work for me now. It’s an uphill battle for us.”

Some of the fees and other charges are complicated, and it can be difficult for people interested in installing solar panels to understand the costs.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-fees-may-weaken-demand-for-rooftop-solar/

Too bad, that green power does not look so appealing without that free lunch. :)
 
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