All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

[Pittsburgh Pete]

Understood the article in Post 1771 that you tried to distort to support your typical denial agenda--the reality of the article's point was quite the opposite from what you attempted to peddle. Go figure!

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

From your most recent posted article:

"Lastly, we care because it demonstrates just why the average global temperature hasn’t been warming as fast over the last several years. We’ve had more La Nina cycles since 1998 than we’ve had El Nino cycles, and that means the Pacific ocean is storing more energy.

The problem with this, however, is that it means that energy is going to come back OUT of the ocean again eventually. And when (not if) that happens next, the average global temperature will spike."

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Apparently you did not understand the conclusion Pete. Let me quote what you quoted:

It is particularly important, Oechel added, for models to get methane output right because the gas is a major driver of atmospheric warming."If you don't have the mechanisms right, you won't be able to make predictions into the future based on anticipated climate conditions," he said.

So the conclusion is the current climate models are bogus because they assume no methane is emitted during the winter months. Reality is there is huge amounts of methane emitted. Any warming attributed to CO2 is bogus because methane is 70 times more potent than CO2.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

From your most recent posted article:

"Lastly, we care because it demonstrates just why the average global temperature hasn’t been warming as fast over the last several years. We’ve had more La Nina cycles since 1998 than we’ve had El Nino cycles, and that means the Pacific ocean is storing more energy.

The problem with this, however, is that it means that energy is going to come back OUT of the ocean again eventually. And when (not if) that happens next, the average global temperature will spike."

Wow, such a smart man. Do you understand what you quoted?

It is the reason why the climate models don't work. They don't predict this!!!

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

and you clearly fail to grasp the point they are making that the situation is more severe because the amount of methane predicted is understated. The conclusion runs counter to your argument. Sorry but you get so excited that they "damn" something you don't quite grasp the idea that they counter your incessant argument.

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

Wow, such a smart man. Do you understand what you quoted?

It is the reason why the climate models don't work. They don't predict this!!!

You might be a science wiz but your grasp of the written word is clearly tenuous. Their conclusion is counter to your denial argument.

The problem with this, however, is that it means that energy is going to come back OUT of the ocean again eventually. And when (not if) that happens next, the average global temperature will spike."

 

[Mr Rex]

Obviously we need to kiil all the methane producing cows ASAP. Growing soybeans/tofu is the obvious protein replacement of an ever expanding population. In any case, hold your farts,and we must "pass this on to others sucking up O2. Hold your farts or we are doomed.

 

[Michigan CG]

I was watching the History Channel today about the forming of the Earth and it said we are over due for another ice age that will wipe out a good majority of life on the planet. The chances of an ice age in that capacity in the next 15,000 years is almost 100%.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

and you clearly fail to grasp the point they are making that the situation is more severe because the amount of methane predicted is understated. The conclusion runs counter to your argument. Sorry but you get so excited that they "damn" something you don't quite grasp the idea that they counter your incessant argument.

Grasping one thing, no comprehending is another. You don't comprehend what you read. They predicted global temperature change based upon CO2, not methane. The assumed the methane emissions were much smaller than they were in reality. That was the point of the article follow by this statement:

If you don't have the mechanisms right, you won't be able to make predictions into the future ...

 

[Randolph Kinney]

You might be a science wiz but your grasp of the written word is clearly tenuous. Their conclusion is counter to your denial argument.

The problem with this, however, is that it means that energy is going to come back OUT of the ocean again eventually. And when (not if) that happens next, the average global temperature will spike."

Did you notice the temperature spike of the biggest El Nino on the following graph, Pete?

Did you not notice the prediction made by the climate models?

So the climate computer models do not, never have and never will predict El Nino warming of the atmosphere followed by La Nina cooling of the atmosphere.

Why Pete?