AMC hires Convicted Felon as Property Data Collector

[George Hatch]

By the looks of it, some on this thread are perfectly fine with Paschal and Elmo completing these " inspections." Don't forget to get your background check and ensure all your USPAP boxes are checked.

I haven't seen one person in this thread or any other thread say that they are "fine" with criminals completing inspections. Or appraisals. Or with that activity being unregulated.

I said from the outset of the controversy that I thought it would just be a matter of time before the states got around to regulating and licensing these individuals, albeit not as appraisers. And that creating even a small barrier to entry or practice would limit their supply and be of effect on the fees.

As for the rest, I'm just pointing to what we already know about the lenders, how they act and the lengths they'll push things unless/until prohibited from doing so. That isn't me expressing any agreement, advocacy, endorsement or support for what they're doing. All I'm doing is not ignoring the elephant in the room.

You can see all of this just as easily as me or anyone else. If you look forward what do YOU think the fee appraisal business will look like 5 years from now? Better or worse than in 2023?

 

[George Hatch]

No conflict of interest here.

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Prospecting for listings via inspections is only different from prospecting for listings via BPOs-as-appraisals in that they're not doing any values in these inspections.

Nor is that "scouting" limited to brokers/agents. We occasionally get appraisers trying to navigate that issue, too. We certify to not having any prospective interests but that cert isn't a guarantee. It's only as good as the individual who is signing it.

 

[Meandering]

But once criminals are rehabilitated in jail, they need to be able to work, so they can live, else, you only leave society open to more criminal activity, because there is no rehabilitation that lets them be remorseful and start over. And being that we jail more people than any other country in the world....think of all those criminals that serve their time, are released from jail, but can not work ever again.............

 

[glenn walker]

This is insane one guy has a record so what. We have plumbers, electricians, handymen, painters, appliance repair people, gardeners, carpet installers going to homes everyday.
Many have no licenses but a license does not make someone honest its a fee paid to a govt agency.

We are talking like every person who signs up to do inspections is a criminal. GET FOCUSED we don't like it because it takes work away from appraisers all the other chatter is just pure Non-Sense.

They will be getting Certifications or Licenses and companies hiring them will also get back ground checks . Sensationalizing one case where the poor criminal never even did a inspection is stupid and doesnt help our cause at all.

 

[George Hatch]

They can work. They just can't work certain jobs.

WRT rehabilitation,
I believe in 35% rehabilitation and 65% recidivism. IMO, those are the chances we take when we choose "forgive/forget" over "never forget".

With that said, not all offenses indicate to the likelihood of misconduct while performing an appraisal. Or an inspection. Like DUI, for example. Someone who went to prison for felony DUI may not be considered a high risk for misconduct while performing an appraisal or going into someone's home to perform a "property data audit" or whatever other way they find to describe that activity.

 

[Meandering]

Sure, but what about all the screaming for background checks, just so they can hold something over someone's head, as being self promoting?

Come on man, this is the time out generation all grown up. They go to time out in the jail and life is still supposed to give them everything they want, when their penalty time is done.


Give me that old time religion.............

 

[ucbruin]

Funny....
We raised the time out generation....

Sweet irony....

 

[Meandering]

My kids raised the time out generation.

But now you don't have to wonder why there are so many mass shootings. Someone wasn't getting the attention they wanted, so they just have a fit, because their only consequence is a time out.

Don't slap your grandkids.

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[George Hatch]

Sure, but what about all the screaming for background checks, just so they can hold something over someone's head, as being self promoting?

Come on man, this is the time out generation all grown up. They go to time out in the jail and life is still supposed to give them everything they want, when their penalty time is done.


Give me that old time religion.............

Okay, but in counterpoint if someone has a conviction for burglary or carjacking or sx assault in their record then a company that sends that worker into people's homes has a legitimate case for cutting that someone off.
No employer or client know what is in a person's history if they never look for it. Looking doesn't comprise a guarantee that individual will never offend, but not looking does comprise a guarantee that the employer or client will get sued if that individual does offend. In that event, the employer isn't getting sued for what the employee or contractor did so much as for putting that individual into a position to commit that offense.

 

[Meandering]

Okay, but in counterpoint if someone has a conviction for burglary or carjacking or sx assault in their record then a company that sends that worker into people's homes has a legitimate case for cutting that someone off.
No employer or client know what is in a person's history if they never look for it. Looking doesn't comprise a guarantee that individual will never offend, but not looking does comprise a guarantee that the employer or client will get sued if that individual does offend. In that event, the employer isn't getting sued for what the employee or contractor did so much as for putting that individual into a position to commit that offense.

That's true, however,
when you're not paying people enough money to live, just because they haven't been caught yet, doesn't mean they haven't figured out they need another way to survive. And heck, it's not like they couldn't sell their info to someone else who couldn't pass a background check.

Stop trying to create menial jobs, and everyone will be safer, and better off.

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