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Karl .. I cant disagree with your post .. and if this trainees mentor taught him to "dismantle", which means to tear apart by the way, then we know what the real issue is. While he later apologized about the word, it is, and remains clear to me, that the word was used as that was his intention.
Our profession doesnt have anything to do with trainee or certified it has to do with competency. We all know that there are many certifieds who are not competent just as there are many trainees that aren't.
I just have serious questions when the main goal is to tear something apart. Right or wrong ... when your goal is to "dismantle" something ... I think you are wrong. Again its just my opinion, but I am an appraiser, and my opinions are strong. If we want to improve our profession, all aspects need to be improved including constructive reviews ... not just ones to get rid of bad apples so to speak. I think there are as many bad reviewers as there are appraisers. These posts make that argument pretty strongly.

Again absolutly nothing I can disagree with. I too didn't like the "Dismantel" Sounds like a go get em. I don't think that even the AZ board would buy using the listing as a sale. I am just so discouraged by the findings of such blantant mistakes with some of the B.S. explanations to try covering the mistakes it just seems to compound the mistake. & I can give names & addresses of Certified Appraisers that have Trainees doing Reviews & worse things. Just watch as frustration grows amongst those that are TRYING to do it right. Got a REO request today for $200.00 Last month same company was 400. I told em let the other guy do it, (He'll be sensding out one of there 12 Trainees). I'll go play, I just gotta decide with the Harley or the Jeep. Decisions, Decisions.
 
I have read the thread, i have read 1 assignment/2 assignment etc...I read all your backtracking. I read through your inability to actually listen to the advice offered. You caught a bad statement in a report. so what? State it What does that have to do with the rest of the report? I have ordered in excess of 1000 reviews. I have performed as many. Cut to the chase. The statement is poorly worded, so what? Is the report credible? Is the opinion of value well supported? I understand you having problems with the language (agreed, it is terrible) however your bias from the get go is evident and continues throughout 5 pages. That is problematic, especially from a young gun trainee. Cranky old guys like PE and Webbed are entitled, you aren't.:rof:

Take a look at the original post. Then get back to me.

And entitled? Entitled to what?

The actual advice I've been given has been great! David, Mike K, Denis, Mike G, Larry, Karl, Todd, Webbed, Greg, Joker (If I didn't mention you I'm sorry) have all said some great things and offered advice. I appreciate that. You on the other had have decided to focus on the negative and offer little or no advice other than engage in a peeing contest. In which case all that happens is you get pee all over yourself and everyone sees how small your package is. So I've learned alot from a lot of people from this thead and I can take that and apply it. So why don't you be like the people I've mentioned and give some positive constructive criticism? I'd appreciate anything helpful you'd have to say.
 
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Todd-

Got it, thanks.

Yes, it boils down to a difference in interpretation; I don't read the value part as being a separate assignment and it doesn't appear to be worded that way in USPAP (line 940, specifically).

We can leave it at that- a different interpretation (and I don't have to worry about getting glasses.... yet!:icon_cool:).
 
it is all in there for you to see.

So why don't you be like the people I've mentioned and give some positive constructive criticism? I'd appreciate anything helpful you'd have to say.

You apparently missed the constructive points.


You caught a bad statement in a report. so what? State it What does that have to do with the rest of the report? I have ordered in excess of 1000 reviews. I have performed as many. Cut to the chase. The statement is poorly worded, so what? Is the report credible? Is the opinion of value well supported?

This is what appraisal review is all about, everything else is horsesh*t.
 
You apparently missed the constructive points.




This is what appraisal review is all about, everything else is horsesh*t.

From my original post have come several good discussions. So I don't know exactly what you think I don't get. I don't give a rats behind who you are, you have no place to tell me what I can and cannot do outside of offering advice on career topic we are all here for. I respect most of the people on here, and I can even respect you, but you come at me with a holier than thou attitude and I'm done with you. But humor me and tell me what you think I'm missing. I'm open minded, I'll at least listen to you. And I'll tell you if it's worth the time I took to read it. Because at this point you've offered nothing constructive. I know my original post made me sound like I was headhunting but I see the error of my way. I'm not out to attack or tear down anyones work. So coming across that way was wrong on my part. I admit that was wrong. So what else am I missing? And I'm asking that honestly wanting an honest constructive answer.
 
Webbed and I just got called Cranky .... darn. :rof:

I dont pretend to speak for Webbed, but our business is full of those less cranky that still wanna crank anyway. I think thats what makes us cranky ... it sure does me anyway.
 
Trainees should not be reviewing anyone's work. Your mentor is acting in an unprofessional manner. I have no problem with you trying to learn as much as possible and coming here as a trainee is a great move and I laud you for it, however like a few others feel, you lack the credentials and experience to be reviewing others work. It is my opinion, nothing more. Good luck to you.
 
Hey!! Thomas John CHILL OUT!! , there are some that are on your side, As your Profile says your a Trainee DO NOT get riled, this place will be even harder on you the more you P people off. Most are TRYING to be constructive & YET we do reserve the right to come down on you & you will loose. This can also be a place where you can learn to get your point across without getting everyone alienating you. You had the B___S to say Trainee now think seriously of staying in line or you'll just be ignored. I know that when you find "Crap" & your trying hard to do it right it's frustrating, BUT retaliation on here to some of the finest in the business will not get you anywhere.
 
Trainees should not be reviewing anyone's work. Your mentor is acting in an unprofessional manner. I have no problem with you trying to learn as much as possible and coming here as a trainee is a great move and I laud you for it, however like a few others feel, you lack the credentials and experience to be reviewing others work. It is my opinion, nothing more. Good luck to you.


Careful Kevin .. you are becoming CRANKY ...

Im also pretty sure Karl is cranky for being excluded from Cranky Inc. ... :rof:
 
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