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Another pet peeve

Sure... but no where in USPAP does it say anything about a more experienced appraiser not being required to support his/her opinions and conclusions. It is a reporting requirement. It's not really optional.
USPAP Standard 2-2 (x ) says that to comply with St 1, you must provide sufficient infomation to indicate the appraiser complied with Std 1 by

1. summmarizing the appraisal methods and techniques employed
5. summarizing the information analyzed and the reasoning that supports the analyses, opinions, and conclusions, including the reconciliation and approaches.
 
USPAP Optional? I have clients that seek my experience, (38 years) Optional or not. Many do not know what USPAP is, or even care. I am responsible for MY own education, knowledge of market trends, etc. I have very efficient data available, regional updates and National financial changes to provide a Report. USPAP DOSE NOT CONTROL US. Get that out of your mind. Did you know that the current USPAP publication has more pages than the 500 + year old King James Bible. We Have to follow USPAP, because there is no alternative. The regulation's, et al. become so sad that my kids decided to stay away from this "Job" after college (they had a built up client base in place) and A) Make more $ initially B) Not be burdened with State Regulators C) Not be required to complete Cont. Ed for the state, D) Not required to deal with AMC people, in Cubicles in Montana, with no real experience, E) having no say/input in ones chosen profession and E) Be able to sleep at night. They are very happy, sleep well and make 3X what I made in my best years. Sorry Sadie, I don't drink the Cool Aid.
 
Sure... but no where in USPAP does it say anything about a more experienced appraiser not being required to support his/her opinions and conclusions. It is a reporting requirement. It's not really optional.
The intended use/intended user is the thing. "The credibility of assignment results is always measured in the context of the intended use". And its the user who judges that credibility. WRT the amount of content, the Prime Directive in the PREAMBLE is "meaningful and not misleading to intended users".

Moreover, we have always done different SOWs and different levels of reporting for different uses AND for different users even when those users are similar (but not the same) as each other.

We even assert a reporting standard that doesn't include showing ANY support for the conclusions. At the most basic level of SR2-2b we aren't even required to show the comps that we used. Everything above and beyond that will be user driven. Or discretionary on the appraiser's part because they simply prefer to do more.

I normally see eye-to-eye with you on everything, but I'm going to diverge a little on this one by saying the actual minimums in USPAP are far, far lower than what most of these users expect. IMO "user-driven requirements" comprise the majority of what we are trying to meet in most of these appraisal reports. Obviously, once stated or communicated or known to the appraiser those user-driven extras combine to contribute to the effective minimum requirements for that assignment. Bust a deal, face the wheel.

TAF still shows both residential and non-residential examples of a naked 2-2b report on their website. IRL most appraisers doing one will add a lot more summary in their reports but that will be a function of meeting user-expectations, not the uncarpeted minimums in 2-2b itself.
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Let me approach the discussion from a different angle.

If an appraiser accepted an assignment that required include a cost approach performed to certain specific requirements and they didn't meet some or all of those requirements then where they're screwing up is at the user-expectations. (and or peers actions for the SAME type of assignment). SR1-2.c adds some details on how to meet those expectations but that list doesn't necessarily hit all the points a user might require.

The standard CA for a 1004 isn't as detailed or flexible as that used in the AI forms or for the apartment or commercial forms or the narrative report formats. They can all vary from each other by detail and yet still be nominally sufficient for their respective users, not because the form is built that way but because of their differing expectations.
 
USPAP Standard 2-2 (x ) says that to comply with St 1, you must provide sufficient infomation to indicate the appraiser complied with Std 1 by

1. summmarizing the appraisal methods and techniques employed
5. summarizing the information analyzed and the reasoning that supports the analyses, opinions, and conclusions, including the reconciliation and approaches.
exactly my point
 
I'm looking for any other profession to have the same standards. Oh wait, they won't, and they make more money.
Standard Z, continuing degradation of the number of appraisers. Avm to the rescue, i wonder how that mysteriously is coming about, soon to be seen after new uad.
Standard AVM, blank pages.
 
I'm looking for any other profession to have the same standards. Oh wait, they won't, and they make more money.
Standard Z, continuing degradation of the number of appraisers. Avm to the rescue, i wonder how that mysteriously is coming about, soon to be seen after new uad.
Standard AVM, blank pages.
Try a CPA.
 
I'm sorry, when has an accountant given you any page paragraph number and why they used that approach. And what other tax laws didn't they use. That's my point, every profession has some standards, but they don't have the new minutia prove it mentality.
 
I'm looking for any other profession to have the same standards. Oh wait, they won't, and they make more money.
Standard Z, continuing degradation of the number of appraisers. Avm to the rescue, i wonder how that mysteriously is coming about, soon to be seen after new uad.
Standard AVM, blank pages.
Doesn't matter much what standards other professions have to contend with. We are appraisers. We need to comply with appraisal standards. If you think those standards are wrong or too stringent then, you can work to change them. Until the standards are changed, we meet the standards that exist.
 
exactly my point
The level of detail and documentation for what "summarize" has never been spelled out in USPAP. The only reference the ASB has ever made to what a "summary" is was in AO-11 (not USPAP proper), which just got retired in 2020 after being an AO for 25 years. And that example shows a paragraph for a summary of an analysis instead of an entire page for a description of that analysis as those terms have been used in SR2. There is no current reference which points to "summary" universally meaning 5 pages of charts and graphs to describe everything the appraiser did to develop those adjustment factors, which factors themselves are also not referenced anywhere in SR1-4.a nor in SR2-2.*viii.

USPAP says what it says, and as is repeatedly reiterated in the Instructor's course, USPAP doesn't say what it doesn't say; and it's important for appraisers to refrain from reading more into the text than is actually present. Or for instructors to attribute to the text more than it actually says.

As an example, the appraisals I perform for many of my clients don't have the same user-driven requirements that *some* but not *all* residential lenders and users require. User-added "detailed descriptions" means user-driven which are crucial to the assignment in their own right and for exactly that "meaningful to the user" reason, but those user-driven add-ons are not universally applicable to all appraisal assignments. The minimum for a summary has always been far less than how "describe" was until-recently illustrated.

The GSEs have new reporting requirements coming online. Those new requirements are not universal across the entirety of appraisal practice. And as a reviewer, if a user's expectation hasn't been communicated to an appraiser then it becomes unreasonable to say that the quality of the appraiser's work was inadequate due to not meeting the known/knowable requirements of the assignment via the existence of the double secret uncommunicated expectation. The GSEs and other clients have an existing script and its important for reviewers to scrupulously stick to that script.

My point being: render unto USPAP only that which USPAP itself actually requires, and render unto the GSEs the additional requirements of their written policies which once stated also become a hard requirement. It appears TO ME that the specific violation you're citing is a violation of the GSEs policies, whereas if that same report went to a different lender outside those pipelines that user might have much lower expectations for summarizing that reasoning.
 
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