ANSI® Z765-2021 Addendum Content

[Aim High]

You might want to edit that - 1/10th of a foot, not inch

Yep! Thanks!

 

[OSU Beavers]

Is this Kosher? "Measurements were taken from the estimated exterior face of the basement walls."

I measured the interior walls of the basement finished area, then added the estimated half a foot to reach the exterior face of the basement walls.

 

[Mejappz]

Fear not; Hamp to the rescue.

 

[RCA]

Is this Kosher? "Measurements were taken from the estimated exterior face of the basement walls."

I measured the interior walls of the basement finished area, then added the estimated half a foot to reach the exterior face of the basement walls.

You take exterior measurements if you can get them; otherwise, get the best estimate of wall thickness, add that to the interior measurements and make a note of the fact that you couldn't get direct exterior measurements.

 

[residentialguy]

What a cop out using GXX001.
ANSI is forcing appraisers to go back using tape measure for most accurate measurement to the tenth of a foot.

Not a cop out. Not all properties are typical and using ANSI would produce a less credible and very wacked out SCA

 

[residentialguy]

You might want to edit that - 1/10th of a foot, not inch

1/10th of an inch is next month's revision.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

get the best estimate of wall thickness

Interpretation. Take a precise figure then add an unknown guesstimate figure that you pull out your ***. I've not seen many basement walls that were not at least the thickness of a concrete block....here most are 8"...so are poured walls. Anything over a few feet tall are more difficult to use the vibrating tool (aka donkey ****) they settle concrete into forms with. But that doesn't take into account the interior may have sheathing, paint, sealer, etc. and exterior may have a plastic sheathing as well.

 

[DWiley]

Interpretation. Take a precise figure then add an unknown guesstimate figure that you pull out your ***. I've not seen many basement walls that were not at least the thickness of a concrete block....here most are 8"...so are poured walls. Anything over a few feet tall are more difficult to use the vibrating tool (aka donkey ****) they settle concrete into forms with. But that doesn't take into account the interior may have sheathing, paint, sealer, etc. and exterior may have a plastic sheathing as well.

Actually, for most basement homes I was able to measure the wall thickness at one of the entry points. No guesstimate required

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

for most basement homes I was able to measure the wall thickness

Yep, ones like this you can measure 2 sides - sometimes 3...that isn't always the case....



You have some like this

 

[Fargo1]

I think my concerns with ANSI are different than others. My biggest concern is being held to measuring to the nearest inch or 1/10 of a foot. I know how to operate a tape measure, but I do not think that kind of accuracy is achievable. I'm waiting for the first appraiser to be sued because he measured a wall as 40.8' when others measured it as 40.4'. Making the case the appraisre is incompetent. I'm sure will see things like this when the market crashes and people or lenders need excuses to sue somebody. I have about a half page of disclaimers stating things like:

... Some of the guidelines set forth by ANSI could mistakenly imply greater precision in measurements than what is physically possible.
.. wood framed construction houses are not always built to within 1" tolerances and may not measure 'square'.
... reporting to within one inch (or 0.1') implies greater precision than what buildings are constructed to.
... Building materials such as siding and brickwork may also affect the way a property is measured
..the nature of tape measures sagging or stretching while under load or blowing in the wind.
... trees, mechanical equipment, or personal property may also make measuring to within 0.1' unachievable.

...The precision of all measurements is limited in accuracy to what is physically and practically attainable. The appraiser will make efforts to reconcile these differences. However, the appraisal is not guaranteed to be accurate to within 1" tolerances and thus may not meet the ANSI standard of measuring to within one inch or 0.1'.


I had more elaborate language in the report, but that's basic my list in a nutshell. What are your thoughts on this?