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ansi is a 2nd language that no civilian, or lender person, speaks. and on this blog, it's spoken with different accents. long ago, they tried to get the metric system going for this country, it failed miserable except for ansi lovers.
 
I never liked attic living space as living area. It's as hot as hell up there.
If the tract homes were built with attic space included in total living area, I would include it in GLA regardless of ANSI.
If not in tract home area and finished attic space not commonly included in GLA, I wouldn't include it.
It's what a real appraiser would do.
 
long ago, they tried to get the metric system going for this country, it failed miserable
Yes, it has failed, for the last 149 years.

Back in 1875 The US signed the Metre Convention, and amended in 1921, which basically committed the US to use the metric system. The US has been officially metric by law since the Metric Conversion Act of 1975.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology uses metric units as the standard to define imperial units.
 
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i live in a 1776 big old city, i knew there was going to be measurement problems when they went form the chain standard to the foot 1 inch style. ben franklin did not want to change all those public records to the 1 inch rule. a little lesson here for the ansi worshippers.

In 1959, the National Bureau of Standards finally tackled troubling issues with minor measurement variations between countries.

While it would be some time yet before issues between the use of metric measurements and what is now called the U.S. standard system of measurement, long-overdue changes were finally underway.

In place of the meter came the yard. In place of the kilogram came the pound. The inch developed when the yard was determined to measure 0.1944 meters or three feet. At first, an inch measured 25.4 millimeters.

In fact, the American Standards Association (1933) and NASA (1952) had already adopted the 25.4mm inch prior to the ratification of the 1959 ISM.

How long would it take before the United States landed upon the modern measurement of a precisely 12-inch foot? According to one metric system historian, it would take four iterations of the inch before the foot itself became a solidly established unit of measurement.
 
i live in a 1776 big old city, i knew there was going to be measurement problems when they went form the chain standard to the foot 1 inch style. ben franklin did not want to change all those public records to the 1 inch rule. a little lesson here for the ansi worshippers.

In 1959, the National Bureau of Standards finally tackled troubling issues with minor measurement variations between countries.

While it would be some time yet before issues between the use of metric measurements and what is now called the U.S. standard system of measurement, long-overdue changes were finally underway.

In place of the meter came the yard. In place of the kilogram came the pound. The inch developed when the yard was determined to measure 0.1944 meters or three feet. At first, an inch measured 25.4 millimeters.

In fact, the American Standards Association (1933) and NASA (1952) had already adopted the 25.4mm inch prior to the ratification of the 1959 ISM.

How long would it take before the United States landed upon the modern measurement of a precisely 12-inch foot? According to one metric system historian, it would take four iterations of the inch before the foot itself became a solidly established unit of measurement.
If you use a conversion chart, there is very little difference between metric and standard measurements. However, I am sure many manufacturing companies would have to change their equipment a little. A metric measurement vs a standard measurement when converted is very very small.

Like on most hand tools, they are interchangeable and work fine when converted. That is how small the difference is.


13mm equals 33/64 inches. Almost exactly 1/2 inch.
 
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I have posted this before. FNMA has investors buying their loans. They are getting way different GLA on many properties.

That instigated ANSI.

It is CYA so to speak.
 
We are appraisers. Converting from one measurement standard to another... like chains to feet... is simple arithmetic. I get that many people don't like change but, come on.... really?

ANSI is the reality for residential appraisers. Learn it, use it, and stop whining about it. If you continue working long enough, something else you don't like will come along.
 
i'm not ansi against. i just don't want the impression that our GLA is a perfect measurement. you can have good GLA anytime, any measurement way. but not with appraiser who measures badly every time, and you think that their GLA will get better with ansi. USPAP didn't make bad appraiser do better work. they still do bad work. so fannie needed to take some selling loans tension away from GLA, so they put up the ansi front.
 
Nice try. No cigar
That reply was meant for Mr Fernando. “Can’t include area if it’s not permitted”.

That is realtor talk right there lol. I just realized you were asking him for the source of his silly statement…
 
Let's get real for a moment. 1- Measuring to the inch is more accurate than measuring to 1/10th of a foot. What the ANSI standard (and Fannie) was trying to change was appraisers rounding off dimensions to the nearest half foot or even foot. That much rounding can clearly change the SF calculation. 2- It's actually simpler for the appraiser to measure to 1/10th foot. Got to a big box home improvement store and buy a fiberglass tape measure for about $15. One side is feet and inches. The other side is feet and tenths. Use the tenths side and you don't have to convert before you do a rough calculation of SF in your car after the inspection. If you use a digital measuring device you can choose.. inches or tenths. It does the work for you. Either way, you will comply with ANSI. 3- Quit whining about ANSI, buy the ANSI book (or the book for the ANSI course), read it.. maybe take the class. ANSI is and will remain the 'law of the land' for most residential appraisals. Either get on board or retire.
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