ANSI

[Terrel L. Shields]

Find an opening such as a door or window and measure the from the exterior to the interior wall?

Again, the only precise way - necessary to achieve that all so important (?) 'accuracy' - is to use a caliper. If your guess is inaccurate -then the 0.1' "precision' is worthless, meaningless, and misleading.

 

[chad hampton]

Every measurement you make under ansi using the primitive tools you find at Home Depot, will be incorrect based on the level of precision you are claiming to achieve.

I wouldn’t sweat over 1/10 of a foot too much. Claim to measure to the nearest millimeter of you want. It won’t make a difference in how the market reacts to the insignificant differences in GLA.

 

[Dublin ohio]

Every measurement you make under ansi using the primitive tools you find at Home Depot, will be incorrect based on the level of precision you are claiming to achieve.

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[Tom D]

i don't give myself anxiety over the preciseness of ansi, i don't believe it's possible in most older shrubbed up homes. why all of a sudden does fannie want it? i believe they now have enough info in their super computer to do avm somewhat accurately, except for the GLA of the homes. perhaps they hope they can tighten that GLA number from all the appraisals done on that home. unfortunately, i see too many wrong GLA numbers on public records, and we use those incorrect numbers. gotta be giving fannie computer heartburn. some fannie braniac sitting in a windowless office thinks ansi is the GLA holy grail.
i know there are the new ansi perfectionist here. please leave me alone in my imperfections.

 

[Fernando]

In the end, I look at my ANSI gross area and assessors records. If "off", sketch needs to be massage given I have 1/10th foot to go up and down.

 

[Tiffany Gibbons]

Every measurement you make under ansi using the primitive tools you find at Home Depot, will be incorrect based on the level of precision you are claiming to achieve.

I wouldn’t sweat over 1/10 of a foot too much. Claim to measure to the nearest millimeter of you want. It won’t make a difference in how the market reacts to the insignificant differences in GLA.

And when you start doing your "desktops" based on "CubiCasa" inspections, you'll care even less,

 

[Mike Ault]

In the end, I look at my ANSI gross area and assessors records. If "off", sketch needs to be massage given I have 1/10th foot to go up and down.

 

[Tiffany Gibbons]

There was something that popped up recently in an assignment, that involved ANSI, GLA, and restrictions.

An appraiser correctly measured a property using ANSI standards, with the 2nd level being calculated based on 5' and above space as there was a significant amount of lower wall to wall space that was 4' and under. (Beneath the ceilings on the sides of the upper floor.)

The calculated amount of square footage came out at a certain amount which was notably less than the minimums which the restrictions allowed.

Naturally, the restrictions didn't specify ANSI measurement standards, and only required a certain amount of heated square feet. Heated square feet aren't the same as ANSI GLA, as all of you know.

Because the appraiser didn't report the total square footage (heated) and only the GLA defined by ANSI, there's all kinds of issues. Our firm has been consulted by attorneys, of course, and we noticed the issue fairly quickly.

Might have been better for the original appraiser to include the total wall to wall measurements, and discount that amount of footage which does not qualify as ANSI GLA within the report rather than just showing the 5' and up. It may be compliant, but a good appraiser should have been more diligent in the report to better reveal the whole story. (That's my opinion, of course.)

Sounds like builder might be misrepresenting the square footage in the development of the subdivision. ANSI is not new. Nothing to do with the appraiser following the rules.

 

[Dale Floyd]

There was no misrepresentation by the builder, as the house did actually comply with the restrictions as written. Obviously, ANSI calculations for GLA are not the same as total heated space for some homes with finished areas less than 5'. Those areas do not cost less to build, and are still usable by owners, but they are not GLA qualified under the standards.

I stand by my initial statement as some of the findings we conclude, simply need a little explanation. That would have gone a long way in this case and saved dollars in the legal battle that wasn't needed.

 

[Fernando]

Fannie wants us to use ANSI for our comps.
That means we have to keep subscribing to the services that provide appraisers' records to the appraisers.