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Appraisal: Incompetence/Recourse

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Austin, I did not trash the appraiser other than to say "apparent incompetence" based on the assumption that the borrower's description of the appraisal was correct. If the borrower made all of this up for some twisted reason, then in the words of Emily Litella "never mind" (I'm dating myself there). This may come as a shock to you and others on this forum, so I hope you're sitting down.....some appraisers ARE incompetent 8O
 
Final argument to the jury: I have been doing this job for about 28 years having heard a lot of similar cases, and based on the testimony I have read in this post, let me restate the case the way I read the evidence:
ATC needed a loan for some reason. The usual reason is not having the necessary funds. Atc goes to the lender knowing full well what his property is worth. He knew that getting the appraisal high enough to get the necessary loan for his purposes was a long shot. But, he agreed to pay the lender for an appraisal to take a chance. Sure enough, Atc’s initial assumption was right, his property did not appraise for enough to make the deal float. So he resorts to pressuring the appraiser by questioning his work product using as leverage, as they all do, “either give me what I want or it's off to the state appraisal board. Even if I lose it will cost you dearly.” The appraisal was probably a few thousand dollars short, so the appraiser in self-defense (due to the weakness in our system-guilty to proven innocent) sends in a second appraisal to help poor old Atc out of his jam. The lender sees through the ploy because they know the property is not worth that much and suspect what is going on, so they order a field review at Atc’s expense. Sure enough, the review confirms the lender's suspicions and it’s back to square one. Atc now has incurred appraisal fees of approximately $800, which he does not have the money to pay. So what does he do? He attacks and destroys the appraiser.
Then he feels guilty, and what do people do when they feel guilty? They go looking for moral, or immoral, support by coming up to this site, trashing the appraiser, and saying in essence: “Please somebody tell me I was justified in breaching three contracts, one to the lender, one to the original appraiser, and one to the reviewer. Does he find a sympathetic ear? O’ yes! Plenty of them with a noose in their hands. Just page up and look at the suckers that fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Even to the extend of never giving the appraiser in question a chance to tell his side of the story and forming a lynch mob and posse to go get him Montana style and string him up!
Why is Austin hammering poor Atc? Because this case points out the weakness in our regulatory process. If Atc had taken this case based on his story to the state board and some of you guys were on that board and had read his letter, this appraiser could/would have been tied up for years defending himself against a state bureauracy with unlimited funds, legal council, and in essence be declared guilty until he could prove his innocence. This system is state tyranny on a grand scale based on economic inequality and the politics of personal destruction (mob rule).
What should we do about this system? In my opinion, each state should select about 50 appraisers with years of seasoned experience to serve as grand jury and appellate council. Every charge and every verdict issued by a state board must be screened by at least five members of this panel before and after the state boards act on it. If this system were in place 99% of the problems would be solved.
PS: There is another post on this same subject of “somebody did me wrong” by a woman from Texas. Read it if you have not already done so. What is the crux of her case? Same story. Over extended credit ($75,000 owed on credit card and no equity in her home and she admitted this), needed an equity loan, knew what her property was worth, the lender over appraises her property, she gets the loan on that basis knowing full well what she is doing, is about to lose her home, and whose fault is it? The lender for over appraising her home. What does she do? Comes to this site damning the lending industry for her problems looking for immoral support. Does she find any? O” yes! Just read that thread. Hang’um high Texas style! I say BS. I could convence some of you guys that the devil got a bum rap. Sin is all a big misunderstanding. Sin is just a device invented by the establishment to oppress us poor fools.
 
Terry!
If you are saying that Austin was correct all along, then I owe Austin a big fat apology. Obviously he read between lines far better than I did.
Hope this has been a good learning experience for you.
 
Austin,

You were right. I was wrong, and I'm sorry if I gave you a hard time. :oops: :(
Not promising that I'll never do it again, but you win this round. :wink:

Dee Dee
 
An excellent post with much good give and take. It just goes to show, we shouldn't (although human nature dictates against this) make judgments until we know ALL, or as many of the facts as possible. I haven't appraised a property as yet, and am trying to absorb as much information as possible before I make my first, and hopefully not my last, foray into the cold cruel world of appraising ( just kidding about the cold cruel world bit). I have a better than even chance of getting on with a local certified general app within the next few days, and if so, will be looking to ya'll for good information on what to do, and WHAT NOT to do.

Brick
 
I wish there were a little emoticon to represent dry heaves. :roll:
 
:idea: Pepto Bismol outta be good for those ole dry heaves Dee Dee, and Gaviscon should take care of any gas that may come along afterwards. :P
Brick
 
OK Gang. ENOUGH!

atc, aka Terry, came on here and gave us a pretty decent explanation of his situation. Sure, we still had some questions and (s)he tried to answer them. Most of us jumped in taking only some of the original post to disect and come to conclusions. Most of the posts under this thread were written under erroneous assumptions and without knowing the full story or the details that would be necessary to come to realistic conclusions. Way too many took a 'know it all' attitude when we knew very little about this particular situation.

Lets end this mess by KNOWING that many of us jumped way too soon with not enough information. We are appraisers. We SHOULD know better! At the very least, many have presented a poor image to the public that this portion of this forum is for. I hope we can all do better next time. I learned from this and am always thankful for that experience.
 
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