Appraisal Institute suspended from The Appraisal Foundation

[AnonApprsr]

I agree with Pete, sorry Webbed. I'm down with a Commercial and a Residential license though.

 

[Ken B]

As a former res guy, I didn't have an extraordinarily difficult time finding an MAI to take me on when I moved from residential to commercial work. Then again, I had already completed most of the MAI courses and a graduate program in real estate and land development before I transitioned to the commercial side. I didn't just knock on doors and say "Hey, I've been a res guy for more than 15 years...how about letting me do some commercial work for you."

 

[Webbed Feet]

Already done here as Oregon no longer issues NEW licenses. I am almost to the point were I can take my test and the GED licensees who sprouted up over the last ten years will soon drop out leaving only CR and CG left.

You may have misunderstood. Even having CR and CG is not a "one license" system, it is still two "license" types if we ignore the third one no longer being issued that is residential here as "Licensed." I know it gets confusing between the use of the words "License" versus "Certification" as types. But I mean we currently still have three types of licenses/certifications plus a trainee "registration" on top of that. My one license proposal would mean there would no longer even be a CR. All that would be left should be a new, for example, "Certified Appraiser (CA)" and the trainee registration. No more line between residential and commercial.. erased... gone... not needed.

So then we all get back to resumes, designations, and experience. No more fraud of licensing or certification either one.

 

[Webbed Feet]

As a former res guy, I didn't have an extraordinarily difficult time finding an MAI to take me on when I moved from residential to commercial work. Then again, I had already completed most of the MAI courses and a graduate program in real estate and land development before I transitioned to the commercial side. I didn't just knock on doors and say "Hey, I've been a res guy for more than 15 years...how about letting me do some commercial work for you."

And yet, as proud as we all are of you, it's not all about you... nor were things like they are now.. So that would be the advantage of your resume then.

 

[Webbed Feet]

I agree with Pete, sorry Webbed. I'm down with a Commercial and a Residential license though.

Certainly, ok. Any discussion on how to repair this broken system (and it is broken in my opinion) is better than no discussion.

 

[AnonApprsr]

Commercial Appraisers have been designated (word chosen wisely) to be "better" than residential appraisers. They, and those that profit from them, continue to present this as fact, a matter of the record. Meh. I admit it's different, but that doesn't mean they're better appraisers. And, even though I feel this way, I still think it should be a separate status. But I don't think a Commercial Appraiser (in a two license system) should be able to do Residential.... some are really bad at it!

 

[Ken B]

And yet, as proud as we all are of you, it's not all about you... nor were things like they are now.. So that would be the advantage of your resume then.

I was not bragging...I was presenting myself as a living, breathing example of what residential appraisers need to do to find someone to mentor them on the commercial side.

As a res guy with my own shop, I threw away many unsolicited resumes from people who thought they were qualified to become a residential appraiser because they had taken a class in basic appraisal principles from the local diploma mill and they were "real hard workers."

Any residential appraiser wanting to transition to the commercial side needs to have better qualifications than being a hard worker with a course in basic income cap from the local diploma mill. That's all I'm sayin'.

 

[Webbed Feet]

And all I am saying is it is a total nonstarter to ask, for example, a 65 year old man with thirty years in as a residential appraiser, to go take four years of college BEFORE he should even bother with any of those AI courses you mentioned. Let alone bother to try and tell anyone what a hard worker he is...

Somehow, the snot nosed 22 year old that just got a four year degree in under-water basket weaving is qualified to move forward as a trainee to become a commercial appraiser.. but our 65 year old could complete all of the AI courses, end up with 50,000 hours of commercial experience as a trainee, literally have completed bunches of perfect demos for the AI .... and still is not qualified to sit for a state test for CG because he lacks a four year degree.

Meanwhile, we have current people with the CG type of license that I am not entirely sure finished the eighth grade or not. I think one has to ask, what was accomplished?

 

[Ken B]

If life was fair, I would have won the lotto decades ago.

I didn't finish my Bachelors until I was 44. I suppose at age 65, I might have felt differently about completing it.

 

[Webbed Feet]

It's not about fair, it's about the public trust. Allowing the public to at all remotely believe "their" appraiser is better due to a licensing type is doing nothing more but intentionally allowing the public to have misconceptions. Our trade moves so far behind the times in so many ways it's no wonder what has happened to the trade has happened. End the fraud of licensing, move to a one license system and make this about resumes. That thought seems to bother you... .. one has to wonder why.