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I can appreciate the skepticism (and sarcasm).

I just sat in a presentation about the program (very abbreviated) on Monday. I'm going to hear a more detailed presentation in August. The objective is (among other things):
A. Provide a framework that appraisers in the field can adopt to create their own, effective training program.
B. Encourage lenders (and AMCs, but it is the lenders who are driving the bus on this one) to accept work from trainees, adequately supervised.
C. Counter the argument that there is a long-term shortage of qualified appraisers and that no replacements are entering the field.
D. Create a system where smaller fee shops can thrive again (which would counter some of the larger, national staffing firms).

I know anything that is remotely associated with Joan T or CRN or AMCs is viewed with a jaundice eye. I get that.
This program (as was presented to me and others) doesn't cost a dime and was developed by AMCs and other stakeholders to bring attention to the challenges in hiring and adequately training new entrants into our profession. It is free and offers a road map that appraisers can use if they are interested in bringing on a trainee. And, it is also designed to encourage lenders to allow a trainees to directly sign the reports while being appropriately supervised. "Appropriately supervised" means that at some point along the training process, the trainee can go out to do a basic inspection without the oversight of their supervisor.

Pre-housing bust, I had a small fee shop. There was no road map to training. I had to devise my own system and set my own standards.. I was successful, never had an issue with quality, and trained a fair number of appraisers who were very competent. I wish I had a program to use a template back then, rather than devising my own methods/process.

At the high point, I had 15 appraisers working with me and a support staff of 4 in the office. Everyone was earning a decent living and while, once trained and licensed/certified, the appraisers could leave to go on their own, most stayed on because the synergy of working in a firm maximized efficiency and (for each of us) profitability. No one was forced to stay with me because of lack of alternative opportunities. And, the size of my firm allowed us to work closer with direct-lender clients and become their go-to appraisal firm in our market (prior to WAMU switching to EAppraiseIt, my firm was the largest appraisal vendor for them in the SF Bay Area). WAMU was not our biggest client.

My point is this:
Residential appraisers have the ability to win back that kind of business relationship. A limitation to becoming a bigger player is a one-person shop can only do so much.
Training new entrants into the residential profession is a challenge when many lenders do not allow "trainees" to sign the report.
This program is simply a framework which appraisers can use and form their own template if they want to take on the challenge and responsibility of training a new appraiser with the objective of growing their business beyond a 1-person shop.
And, it encourages lenders to allow trainees (adequately supervised) to co-sign reports.


Maybe not necessary in L.A. or San Francisco. Not a bad program in Washington, Oregon, or more rural areas. Pro-appraisal professionalism as well.

For the record, I did not participate or have anything to do with this program's development. I certainly share the objectives of (a) creating a professional setting for appraiser training and (b) encouraging lenders to engage appraisers who supervise appraiser trainees.

I expect many to not share my view on the advantages and opportunities that such a program can create for the boots-on-the-ground residential appraiser who wants to grow her firm and take on trainees. :)


You're right.
I don't share your view on the "advantages and opportunities".
But I had no doubt you had that view.

Funny though, how we refer to appraisers in the feminine, almost like pretending as if at least half were women.

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Is there a head ache icon???

Joan owns the CRN network which lists many - by virtue of ownership JT can lay claim to a national consortium. The CRN serves as a shelter, a safe harbor for the many or the very "few" but because it is a private network not open for scrutiny or transparency, one would never truly know who of the actual members supports what.

Seeing as how Corelogic is buying Mercury Network It shouldn't surprise anyone if Corelogic quietly bought several memberships in each tier level.

Anyway. Enough said. As usual. Very telling. The AMC participants can choose a level of membership from Platinum, Gold or Silver - $5000 - $10000 you get and/or pick and choose benefits.

I just hope not to see any more Trice enterprise membership drives being marketed here by AF members.

Sponsorship level diagram

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2PIryNRdBY4ODJ6cWdtb2tBblU/view

and

These companies support the future of real estate appraising and the START Program.

CRN; AXIS APPRAISAL MANAGEMENT; MERCURY NETWORK
 
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Yeah, let's train people to compete with us so the AMC's can put the newbies to work and send them out on inspections , AMC's with zero loyalty will use the use the lower paid newbies as much as possible as well as reduce fees even more on the scraps . Brilliant idea ( sarcasm intended)
 
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The Appraisal Congress program ~ revived through the CRN.

I realize the argument of AMCs exploiting appraisers and consumers is old news but can anyone explain how this program protects the public trust? When/why is appraiser training becoming exclusive to serving mortgage marketing?
 
The Appraisal Congress program ~ revived through the CRN.

I realize the argument of AMCs exploiting appraisers and consumers is old news but can anyone explain how this program protects the public trust?

There's no argument for it, though I presume they will say it protects by keeping fees lower to consumers...which we know is total BS since they can keep fees lower to consumers NOW by getting their paws out of the consumer paid fee
to keep for as AMC profit, the lenders can pay the appropriate management fee to the AMC for processing an order. (I bet if lenders had to pay for AMC service they'd keep it as lean as possible, which is why AMC's avoid cost plus like the plague)
 
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The Appraisal Congress program ~ revived through the CRN.

I realize the argument of AMCs exploiting appraisers and consumers is old news but can anyone explain how this program protects the public trust? When/why is appraiser training becoming exclusive to serving mortgage marketing?

Ah yes, A NAC refresher. Amazing isn't it? Shortage, no shortage, shortage, no shortage - back to shortages with a new pay to play plan devised to address shortages in a few COW states. A new program from one who stated there isn't a shortage. So, I guess it depends on who is crying "shortages" - when, why, and what for...

In the end its the same ole tug of war with the same people representing the same ole same ole entities that rebrand with new names and come back re-invented as new programs.

“It has long been known and of major concern that the appraiser population is aging, retiring or leaving the industry at a rate greater than the number of new appraisers entering the industry to replace them,” said Greg Stephens, a Member of NAC and Chief Appraiser/ SVP of Compliance for Metro-West Appraisal Co.

In certain states, regulations make it impossible for an appraiser trainee to serve as a force multiplier on behalf of their trainer or mentor,” said Jordan Petkovski, chairman of NAC and chief appraiser for TSI Appraisal.
http://www.dsnews.com/headline/07-0...ttee-to-address-valuations-workforce-shortage
 
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Why would I want a trainee?

supposedly per the spin to make $ by leveraging the fact that a trainee able to inspect on their own through the new reduction of regulations for trainees...there will be a takers of appraisal mill shops ; expect Forsythe and Metro West? ...assuming they can convince the dumbest of the dumb certs who work for them to train their own replacements.

It's more of the same, convincing the craven to "make it up in volume..".with a trainee you are still getting a low fee, but we will give you MORE low fee work ! Plan is to let the trainee run around and inspect and thus profit off the trainee. Of course it will come back to bite any appraiser who falls for it because as soon as trainee is able they will work directly for the AMC clients and undercut the appraiser who trained them. Some AMC's perhaps will offer a bonus to their staff appraisers to train..watch the staff appraisers say yes .
 
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