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I get a camera for a buck and a quarter. Specs: Must fit in my shirt pocket.

I'm not Ansel Adams. I work for a living.
 
That's awesome. I have the ZS1 and I dont get anywhere near that battery life. Maybe 4 assignments per charge. Of course I take a ton of pictures.

Average about 30-40 pics per assignment including comps (60+ on a HUD repo yesterday). Ended up taking better than 350 pics (@ 2mpix) and still had 1 of 3 bars when I charged it.

The only thing I don't like is the location of the video button. I constantly hit it while taking pics and for some reason it creates 2 folders with 2 different date formats when syncing. Otherwise I'm extremely pleased with it.
 
New PDF coming soon

FWIW, I am in the process of finally updating the PDF that I last posted back in December. There have been several additions by various manufacturers and some movement on pricing - mostly favorable :-) Unfortunately, I have to be away for just over a week and will not be able to finish things up before leaving today, so it'll have to wait until my return. Mostly, though, the list from back in December is still viable, especially in light of the new models, which tend to push pricing down on "last year's" models. Most of the new models have extended capabilities and some familiar manufacturer names have joined the list, so good stuff coming for almost all market segments - price, performance, form factor, etc.

Hope this helps for now!

-Randall Garrett-
..Apex Software..
 
TC:
I think it was deemed obsolete because it "only" was 5.1 MP. The newer
V705 (which was virtually identical but was 7.1 MP) took it's place, but is also discontinued. I believe that the public demanded a higher mega pixel setting. I don't know why, because a 10 MP photo takes up HUGE amount of storage. The funny thing is that I do not believe the public really realizes how useful a true wide angle camera is, especially for shooting groups of people indoors at parties or Christmas get togethers, and generally demands megapixels over truly useful wide angles.

I have worn out several. One of 2 things happen. The mechanically operated lens cover fails (but never sooner than at least 10,000 exposures) or the rear LCD fails. However, each can be repaired for $50, but I usually just buy a new one on EBay.


Wm (Bill):

One thing I forgot to mention is that the V570 has a "preview mode" where you can push the shutter button half way down and it freezes the light setting on the LCD. If you are shooting a tough lighting situation, you can push the button half way down, and the lighting setting the camera has selected is frozen, and you get a very good representation on the LCD of what the photo will look like.

Say, for instance, you are shooting a back lit subject. You select the center spot mode and aim the camera. Push the button half down, than look at the screen. If your intended subject is too dark, you can try pointing to a darker part of the house (which will let in more light). If it is too overexposed, you can point the camera on a lighter portion of the house. Once you have the proper light setting, hold the button half way down, then focus the camera where you prefer (ie center the house in the screen) and shoot. Perfect exposure every time in any conditions.

I do a lot of ocean front condominiums, and I like to take a photo of the ocean view from the inside of the living room, through the glass doors or windows. This is a nearly impossible situation, and difficult even for trained photographers (I am not). Our eyes are capable of properly seeing both the ocean and the dark living room well, but a camera is not. However, with this feature, you focus on the ocean from inside of the living room, let the camera get a light setting on the ocean (not on the living room), and you get a real nice photo showing the blue ocean, with the living room obviously underexposed, but visible.


This is not difficult, if you use an slr instead of a point and shoot. with an SLR, use a good flash unit (not the pop up). Set the camera for the meter reading from the ocean/outside. Have the flash set on TTL, then bounce it off the ceiling.
 
I get a camera for a buck and a quarter. Specs: Must fit in my shirt pocket.

I'm not Ansel Adams. I work for a living.

Yeah, but in our line of work, expediency is also a plus.

How far away from a house corner do you need to be to get the whole house in with that shirt-pocket camera? (Rephrased: How wide of a "wide angle" setting does it have?) I've never used a disposable (point and shoot) camera that had a wide enough field of view to get the whole house in when the house was on a .05 acre zero lot line lot. Or a whole kitchen. Or half of a full bathroom.

When using it for comps, how long does it take for your camera to focus and then actually "fire" and get the image? A few seconds? Another bad habit of point and shoots. (It's called shutter lag.)

Using an SLR (or today, a DLSR) does not make one Ansel Adams - it makes one aware of just how unuser friendly point and shoots really are when time is of the essence. Certainly when you need 15-20mm wide angle FOVs on a digital camera to squeeze a house into the frame instead of stitching multi photos together or worse, sending in photos with only 2/3s of the house in it. An SLR's infinitely faster autofocus and lack of shutter lag can also be the difference between getting that comp photo and getting on with your business or waiting on the P&S to focus, then maybe trip the shutter, or maybe focus some more before it begins to think about tripping the shutter while the comp's homeowner walks out and starts yelling at you about taking a photo of his/her house...I guess you could stop and talk with them for a half hour and explain why...meanwhile I'll be arriving at my next appointment.

I am not panning on your personal camera selection, well, no more than you are panning on anyone that doesn't use a P&S as Ansel Adams posers. But I will say that if a P&S camera is what you want to use for appraisaing, then you shouldn't be wasting money on one. You should be using the one in your phone. They're going to be of about equal (photo) quality and overall function IMO. I would, but I use my phone for phone calls - I use my DSLR for photo work. Since 2003. 10's of thousands of images ago. Have never had to stitch anything together because I have a wide angle lens (down to 15mm). I get a lot of those distant off-the-road comps too, as I have a 300mm lens. My interior photos look awesome - I use a dedicated strobe and not a tiny LED afterthought of a flash. I have 2 rechargable batteries for it - I have to swap them out about every 60-80 days, and it only takes the dead one about 90 minutes to recharge. Mine can also work on AA batteries in an emergency. No, I pressed my personal DSLR into appraisal work/service because of its high degree of usefulness, not because I wanted to be Ansel Adams.
 
I too have some pretty serious dslr gear. Please see my other "job" here: http://www.lakecityfloridaphotographer.com

I also own a full line of studio strobes, upto 1600ws of power, light modifiers (softboxes, reflectors, umbrellas, beauty dishes etc). However, I use a point and shoot for 99% of my appraisal work. If you are using a 15-20mm lens on a DX or FX body, you are getting distorion in your images. You are making the interior (and exterior) look larger than they are. Since 50mm most closely approximates the human field of vision, on a DX body, you need to be using a 30-35mm lens and on an fx body a 50mm lens not to provide misleading images of the interior.

The point here is that there are no right or wrong ways to provide the images as long as they are clear and help the reader to visualize the improvements and condition of the property. If a point and shoot can do that, great. If you need a DSLR to do it, use it.
 
I use a Nikon P90.

Pros: The lens is 26mm, 24x optical zoom, but what sold me is the 3 inch adjustable LCD viewfinder. The adjustable viewfinder, much like a wide angle lens, is something you don't really appreciate until you use it.

Cons: Bulky for an appraisal camera.

The P90 can be found on ebay from $200-250 lightly used or factory reconditioned.

http://www.google.com/products/cata...log_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q8wIwAg#
 
If you are using a 15-20mm lens on a DX or FX body, you are getting distorion in your images. You are making the interior (and exterior) look larger than they are. Since 50mm most closely approximates the human field of vision, on a DX body, you need to be using a 30-35mm lens and on an fx body a 50mm lens not to provide misleading images of the interior.

Yeah, I took the New York Institute of Photography correspondence course too.

If people can't look at an image and know that it required a wide-angle lens that may induce some barrel or pincushion distortion, they don't need to be reviewing appraisals.

I use the lens required to get the entire subject of that photo into the frame - I am not hung up on some camera distortion being 'misleading'. You have over-interpreted that word for appraisal use IMO. Otherwise, we ALL need DSLRs specifically with PC (perspective correcting) lenses since we often have to tilt the camera for exterior photos on uneven lots since we can't have any non-parallel lines in any of our photos by your (unrealistic) standard. Well, maybe you don't, since Florida is basically flat compared to my state of NC.

No, a misleading photo is "fixing" things in it, like cracked floors, or adding or taking away something in Photoshop that you do/don't want seen that was or wasn't actually there. A little perspective, barrel, or pincushion distortion are photographic anomalies, and do not rise to the level of being 'misleading'. Plus, interior photos are intended to simply show the interior condition/quality, not the size of the interior. Or do you lay out a measuring tape in-frame so they can see how big each room really is since scale in photos has always been an issue? (think straight on "dog nose" photos where the dog's nose is 2X the size of his body due to the distance relationship - and why do CSI's lay a ruler by evidence before imaging it? To establish scale and has nothing to do with the lens choice.)

Really, good on you for being a photographer and knowing your stuff, but you are way overthinking the term 'misleading' when it comes to the photography end of appraising. I've never had a callback or any other issue with any of my photographs, dating all the way back to the Polaroid days. And of the numerous cameras I own, the only ones I've never used (never tried to use) for appraising was my YashicaMat 124g TLR and my 5x7 view camera...and if I owned a medium format film scanner, I may have even used the TLR a time or two just for kicks. I love the 6x6 format - better than 4x6 anyway. And the view camera can do the aforementioned perspective corrections in a snap, but dragging the tripod and hood through the home for interior photos may take too long to be cost effective. :)
 
I was accused of photoshopping the background of a home in Minneapolis.

The nerve!

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