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Are online "valuations" reliable or legal?

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J in Florida

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I retired several years ago, but recently I've seen a lot of marketing from realtors and mortgage folks sayin things like "find out what your home is worth". Now I'm like old and stuff, but back in my career that stuff was obvious BS that would make the robot from "Lost inn Space" go bat crazy screaming "danger Will Robinson".


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What are you all finding out there?
 
It depends on the area and its density and conformity of homes or condos. In My neighborhood typical tract homes, are similar in , age, physical size , lot sizes etc and Zillow-Red-Fin or other AVM ( Automated Valuation ) tools are often very close with a 2% to 5% variance. BUT when you get into less urban areas or when dealing with site built, custom or rural properties they are NOT accurate at all. I just ran one on my own property and it came back at a estimated value of $528,000. BUT then I went and looked at individual sales and some were in better condition, some had pools etc and so I would make adjustments for those and my quick analysis had me at a point of value of between $510,000 to $515,000. So the AMV -Zillow type tool was very good to use as a starting point. The Realtors use similar statistical tools that are incorporated into their MLS service and often use those numbers when they send out flyers and other advertising to home owners.

SO NOW you have to determine if your property fits into the box, if its site built, custom, unique, complex, located on land, the Automated valuation tools are worthless. As far as legality ( YES ) they are a computer generated model and not an appraisal. I suggest you go to google run your own property on a Zillow or Red-Fin and see what kind of estimates it comes out with. And then look at other sales in your neighborhood and see what kind of price variances you see. Remember these tools do not replace a good old fashioned appraisal, where your property is physically inspected and individual adjustments will be made for the positive and negative attributes of your home "V" other similar sales in your area.
 
Well, these online valuation tools are free so what does that tell you about them...they are "free" except used for site to get paid ads or send your contact info to RE brokers/ mtge brokers

Try running your own house through a few, get a value and see whta you think. I have run my own house through them as well as on occasion a house I appraised. Like any AVM the results can vary widely depending on a subject, the comps , data , etc...the AVM can range from eerily accurate to mediocre to terrible. . The problem with an AVM is one never can predict which. Therefore an AVM has a confidence score...
 
Never understood why a vendor doesn't create a product based upon an AVM supplemented by an appraiser's "down-n-dirty" site inspection conducted primarily to confirm public records, to adjust for enhancements, and to qualify the critical condition/view/location factors missing from the AVM. The typical AVM 20% [+/-] margin-of-error could be whittled down to 5% without requiring too much effort/time by the appraiser, unless public records are awry. [BTW I volunteer to revolutionalize the industry, if the price is right...]
 
Chicken farm sold for $3 million....Zillow cannot figure out why and says it is worth $240,000...but the manufactured home nearby that sold for $80,000...$1 million plus...hey, there is a $3 million sale in the neighborhood Rofl... I noticed that Realtor.com and Zillow are showing a plunge in prices beginning about December last year..??? When all the data indicates prices are stronger, not weaker. I missed the big plunge in price about December-January. :rof:
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If you click on 'find out what your house is worth' you will be giving your name, phone number, address, and email to a realtor who pays for the lead. I'd assume when you get contacted, the 'realtor' will ask you what you think its worth and he'd be more than happy to list your property. You'll also give your phone number to a few dozen spam callers who will try to sell you everything you never wanted.

Virtually all AVMs are lagging average valuations. In my market all I see is 100% LTV ratios and more (multiple offers above list).
 
These online “valuations “ should be regulated and forced to follow USPAP. The problem is many of them are the sugar daddies for TAF. See list of TAF advisory council.
 
he'd be more than happy to list your property. You'll also give your phone number to a few dozen spam callers who will try to sell you everything you never wanted.
I have never used my gmail address for the MLS, or for that matter anything but genealogy. I gave the MLS a hotmail address - same for the state board. I opted out of the email after appraisers complained about all the Realtor spam. No problem. I don't get emails from agents on hotmail. How they found my gmail address I don't know, but every time I check gmail, (only about 1 time a week) I have about 15 Realtor postings urging me to help sell their dogs in Fayetteville and Springdale.
 
These online “valuations “ should be regulated and forced to follow USPAP. The problem is many of them are the sugar daddies for TAF. See list of TAF advisory council.
You cannot make regulate a computer and an-AVM is not an-appraisal , and if they were there is no need for appraisers anymore. BUT the positive is it would eliminate TAF and USPAP : ) LMAO
 
I live on a golf course in a gumbo type location--condos, townhouses, SFR's and acreage homes. AVM's are completely useless, yet the local realtards are pimping "free value analysis". I'm so glad I retired because I'm tired of this ignorant BS. These DB's will not listen to a professional.
 
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