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Are online "valuations" reliable or legal?

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I live on a golf course in a gumbo type location--condos, townhouses, SFR's and acreage homes. AVM's are completely useless, yet the local realtards are pimping "free value analysis". I'm so glad I retired because I'm tired of this ignorant BS. These DB's will not listen to a professional.
RE agents always exaggerated/mis led on price/value. Nothing new there.

But now, EVERYONE is an instant expert. After all, they found out what their home is worth on Zillow ! I have more trouble now on refinances than on sales. At least with a sale, the RE agent knows it is a game for them to win and act accordingly. But the refinance - omg some of these owners KNOW their house is worth more because the internet said so ! And then they send in the inane sales in an ROV they found.
 
You cannot make regulate a computer and an-AVM is not an-appraisal , and if they were there is no need for appraisers anymore. BUT the positive is it would eliminate TAF and USPAP : ) LMAO

the computer cannot turn itself on.

what bankster decided the search criteria. let me guess, mozillo?
 
OMG these are just lead generators. Value thingy is just bling to attract customers. Realtors pay HUUUUGGE to get that lead info.
 
Never understood why a vendor doesn't create a product based upon an AVM supplemented by an appraiser's "down-n-dirty" site inspection conducted primarily to confirm public records, to adjust for enhancements, and to qualify the critical condition/view/location factors missing from the AVM. The typical AVM 20% [+/-] margin-of-error could be whittled down to 5% without requiring too much effort/time by the appraiser, unless public records are awry. [BTW I volunteer to revolutionalize the industry, if the price is right...]
They dont want the Truth - they want to hear $$$$$$
 
When I used to tell people is it worth $300 to prevent a $30000 mistake would the $300 be worth it? The would look at me like I was from Mars. That said, how many of us have seen people make $30k mistakes? All the freaking time.
 
These online “valuations “ should be regulated and forced to follow USPAP. The problem is many of them are the sugar daddies for TAF. See list of TAF advisory council.

TAF has no say or influence in which activities get regulated or de-regulated.
 
WRT the public adding online valuation tools to their decision making, I think it's better when people have access to more information, not worse. Whenever they can make more informed decisions that makes our jobs easier.

As far as lending goes, when the AVMs are demonstrating reliability levels that are as high as [appraisers as a group] in certain types of assignments then it becomes self-evident that those users will have no reason to use appraisers for those assignments. Principal of substitution applies.

In real life, if individual appraisers aren't adding anything of value to their assignments beyond what's already available for free then they're going to find themselves on the road toward economic obsolescence. Way of the world.

War story: This week I'm working on an assignment where there was a BPO - provided by a Commercial Broker - concluding to a value that starts with a mid-$4,zzz,zzz. My value conclusion, which is based on much more relevant data and analyses, starts with a low-$3,zzz,zzz.

That's because that broker doesn't do what I do in a valuation. As is the case with most brokers and with many (albeit not enough) appraisers. In the short run our minimum standards enable us the flexibility to do as little as it takes to meet our user expectations. But over the long run, if we are capable of doing better it is in our best interests to do better, even if it costs us to do it.
 
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AVM's. despite decades trying to make them more "reliable", are still a second product for lenders, not a first - in fact AVM's alone are not allowed per recent regs for certain loan uses and must be upgraded to at least an evolution and ext inspection ( which explains the rise in desktop appraisal short form assignments)

AVM's serve as a compliment to an appraisal and vice versa. Imo only if AVM's incorporate true AI will they replace appraisals - could be wrong of course.

We can't stop progress or tech changes and it is already here. But tech has a drawback too, as people are discovering. It is not almighty after all. Despite Zillow and all the other sites and info, seems a number of buyers are making as questionable choices as they ever did/over paying.

In the past scarcity of data was the challenge, now it is "too much " data. Free and cheap - the appraiser's skill to qualify it and integrate data with inspection and market feedback is the key to reliability/credibility. An AVM can not be replicated or understood by most users or appraisers for that matter - but an appraisal can be read and understood, replicated and reviewed.
 
"IAC = Pay to Play. In order to see how the sausage is made, members pay $2,500 per year to buy access to TAF executives, board chairs, and various staff. Members pay their way to the IAC meetings across the county, probably spending $10k to $15K annually. I only attended the meetings when they were in DC but each of those trips cost me about $1,500 round trip. I am not making the argument here that these companies shouldn’t have access to TAF, but it shouldn’t be on a pay to play basis. It is corporate elitism at its worst."

truth.

biased rule making makes bias appraisals.

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