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ASA fired off quite the letter

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Either that or lobby Congress to change it's mind about authorizing TAF as "the Source of Appraisal Standards and Appraiser Qualifications".
Yes, regulation by reference to a non-public 'standard' should be abolished and I believe that this is a function of the FOIA - how those weasel words got added I do not know but no private standard should be imposed upon a licensee of any sort. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
The problem was the LACK of reasonable and credible appraisal reports pre-crash, because the mortgage brokers got to pick number hitters. What we had, was a bunch of number hit /inflated crappy appraisals, picked by mortgage brokers and a lesser number of credible appraisals..

still blaming the number hitters for the last crash...and not the no doc loans...just sign the new number pressure petition since the prices have doubled:ROFLMAO:
 
I have a futile attitude as well. I've never met a group of people more right-wing in my life. In Iowa it was crazy how right-wing the appraisers there were. I'm sure it was the same in Omaha, but I didn't get involved in appraisal groups there.

But you're not encouraging me. You're anti-union.
The difficulty you're running into with me is that I know appraisers by virtue of the thousands of hours I've spent directly interacting with them in an instructional setting.

One of the things I know about appraisers is that they WILL compete for work by fee and with WILL accept lower fees in lieu of not working at all. Which by your own hand you have admitted to doing yourself. Which I have also done myself. I have never criticized an appraiser for taking a lower fee or making whatever other business-related compromises they had to make to put food on their table. Not ever.

I also know that no collective bargaining unit for fee appraisers will ever be able to enforce a physical picket line or an electronic picket line or be capable of bringing to bear the personal coercion it takes for unions to force a member to put their peers' interests ahead of those of their own household. I might be wrong, but IMO it won't happen because it can't happen. If you believe otherwise then I think that's great. I would never lift one finger to oppose such a union so long as they don't try to cut me off from my own clients.

Your problem isn't me nor is it anything I'm saying on a forum. Your problem is that IRL appraisers don't work in groups or as part of a team - we work solo.
 
Yes, regulation by reference to a non-public 'standard' should be abolished and I believe that this is a function of the FOIA - how those weasel words got added I do not know but no private standard should be imposed upon a licensee of any sort. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[shrugs] Okay.

But don't kid yourself. Mortgage lending is a heavily regulated business and that regulation has been extended to the accountants and appraisers who contribute to those activities. There will be appraisal standards and appraiser qualifications and somebody other than the lenders will be establishing and enforcing them. Somebody is going to do it, and I guarantee that you're going to hate them telling you what to do just as much as you hate the current status quo.

The problem isn't them. It's you. And me. And all the rest of us. Whether it's fair or not, nobody trusts us (or any of our users) to self-regulate or to call 100% of the shots in our conduct, our development or our reporting.
 
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Independent appraisers are reluctant to join an appraisal organization, or even their own state coalitions, because they don‘t want to pay the fees involved. We would be happy to have many more in the ASA ranks, but it’s not a free ride.

I suspect few would pay dues to a union.
 
Interesting letter but in the grand scheme of things, it will have no effect. All of his points have been addressed multiple times in various committees and commissions but ultimately, someone with better access and deeper pockets has paid good money to buy the people that make the final decisions. I suspect that Corelogic is in line to sell F/F all of the 'accurate and credible' data necessary for their waiver decisions.

None of this should be a surprise to any appraiser that pays attention to the world around them. For the most part, they have at their fingertips all of the data necessary to produce a reasonably credible appraisal report, thanks to the internet. Did they think that they were the only ones scouring this online data? Plus, appraisers have willingly provided CL and others mountains of data via the UAD reports.

Its like the publishers of those 'old' phone books trying to keep phone numbers off of the internet and force everyone to continue to use the 10 lb books. Appraisers are the harness makers of the past. Sure, they still sell some harnesses today but its a bit of a specialized market.

As to the cries of 'protecting the public good and the taxpayers'....appraisals have never been very useful in that regard. All of the reasonable and credible appraisal reports in the world did virtually nothing to mitigate the last real estate crash. No reason to think they would prevent the next one.

Vetting the borrowers and requiring a sensible down payment would go a long ways in preventing a real estate crash but since the real estate market has become little more than a gov't subsidized and guaranteed welfare program, the last thing the Fed wants is to have anyone (appraisers) in the way of perpetuating this grand scheme.

YMMV.
You don't know how many dollars appraisers have saved in the markets I have worked.

This guy seems legit in his purpose. He can't do it without a signed petition.
 
In this guy's case. You have to get a signed petition and go to the White House and all the way down to the consumer.
 
Independent appraisers are reluctant to join an appraisal organization, or even their own state coalitions, because they don‘t want to pay the fees involved. We would be happy to have many more in the ASA ranks, but it’s not a free ride.

I suspect few would pay dues to a union.

they are so far behind the curve...did the ASA realize what is happening and figure out it's not just a conspiracy anymore:ROFLMAO:
 
It would need court docket recorded.
 
I don't think it takes a union.

It takes a very well written petition which this guy seems to have.


It needs many signatures on it.
 
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