Assumptions and estimates for when the ANSI measuring standard becomes the rule?

[Lee Lansford]

I'm not a super experienced appraiser, but in my trainee days there was a strong emphasis from the state I was certified in not to appraise a house for say $324,563 because it would misleadingly imply too much precision. When it comes to measuring a house, are you going to utilize new boilerplate in your templates to describe your methodology and level of precision such as:

Assumptions made when measuring to the interior (no we can't check the thickness of every wall).
Estimates utilized when there are obstructions (dang bush is in the way).
Walls that appear to visually be at right angles are assumed to be.
Measurements may vary based upon minor differences in the exterior (what part of the lap siding do you measure to (and from), what about that veneer that extends 3' up the wall, what about the natural stone veneer or log siding which varies 3-4"?)
Final sketches will be reconciled (not sure how to approach this one, but if I round nearly 1/2" in the course of a large house with 50+ measurements, that could be a big, big difference by the time I get to the end, would ideally take some larger measurements, but that still involves reconciling)

For 30+ years I've been reporting what I measure as I have measured: To the nearest 10th or quarter of a foot. There's nothing new here.

 

[TruJa]

For 30+ years I've been reporting what I measure as I have measured: To the nearest 10th or quarter of a foot. There's nothing new here.

Tell me about the ANSI reporting requirements (not the measurement requirements).

 

[glenn walker]

Tell me about the ANSI reporting requirements (not the measurement requirements).

The two are married you report what you measured .

 

[Lee Lansford]

Tell me about the ANSI reporting requirements (not the measurement requirements).

I'm not certain what you mean. Report what you measure. What?

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

is an expression of a physical fact.

technically, it isn't necessarily "fact" it is a measurement.The level of precision does not translate automatically to accuracy. Especially true when more than one person measures the same item.
Brittanica

Measurements may be made by unaided human senses, in which case they are often called estimates, or, more commonly, by the use of instruments, which may range in complexity from simple rules for measuring lengths to highly sophisticated systems designed to detect and measure quantities entirely beyond the capabilities of the senses​

 

[sputnam]

technically, it isn't necessarily "fact" it is a measurement.The level of precision does not translate automatically to accuracy. Especially true when more than one person measures the same item.
Brittanica

Measurements may be made by unaided human senses, in which case they are often called estimates, or, more commonly, by the use of instruments, which may range in complexity from simple rules for measuring lengths to highly sophisticated systems designed to detect and measure quantities entirely beyond the capabilities of the senses​

No... the fact is whatever you are measuring. It is whatever length it is. Your measurement may be more, or less, precise. Your measurement is the expression of the dimension of the object measured.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

No... the fact is whatever you are measuring

If it were, then everyone measuring would get exactly the same answer- wherein lies the rub. There are likely going to be just as many complaints about size and GLA regardless who, how, or what standard is used to measure by. If measurement were a fact, you wouldn't need a standard.

 

[RCA]

I'm not a super experienced appraiser, but in my trainee days there was a strong emphasis from the state I was certified in not to appraise a house for say $324,563 because it would misleadingly imply too much precision. When it comes to measuring a house, are you going to utilize new boilerplate in your templates to describe your methodology and level of precision such as:

Assumptions made when measuring to the interior (no we can't check the thickness of every wall).
Estimates utilized when there are obstructions (dang bush is in the way).
Walls that appear to visually be at right angles are assumed to be.
Measurements may vary based upon minor differences in the exterior (what part of the lap siding do you measure to (and from), what about that veneer that extends 3' up the wall, what about the natural stone veneer or log siding which varies 3-4"?)
Final sketches will be reconciled (not sure how to approach this one, but if I round nearly 1/2" in the course of a large house with 50+ measurements, that could be a big, big difference by the time I get to the end, would ideally take some larger measurements, but that still involves reconciling)

 

[RCA]

Your value conclusion has to be bracketed by adjusted sale prices in the sales grid. They can all be the same and any odd dollar amount. So any such requirement leads to a contradiction with GSE guidelines. You can ignore it with an explanation.

 

[Tim The Enchanter]

What is the biggest micrometer I can buy?
Will it span 100 feet? How can I position that sucker around bushes and such, and how many helpers do I need?
I guess the term retarded is no longer PC. How about F***tarded?

Because I no longer care.