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Bitcoin Is Over $7,200!

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Possible. I think the bubble popping talk gets pretty real if it starts trading below that $13,000 area without getting back up quickly. It probably comes back in the long run but I think it could go a lot lower in the short term. Bulls really need to defend the $13,500 area.

Not a huge fan of charts but my thinking is for sure needs to, is, gonna test pre-thanksgiving buying of ~$6k.

I have some GDAX GTC orders sitting there. Have to have GTC in place cause just like flash crashes. When high vol. no way to trade/login.
 
Not a huge fan of charts but my thinking is for sure needs to, is, gonna test pre-thanksgiving buying of ~$6k.

I have some GDAX GTC orders sitting there. Have to have GTC in place cause just like flash crashes. When high vol. no way to trade/login.

It's possible you get filled. I heard that about most of the exchanges. Makes the market almost untradable. I use Gemini and I hate how often they are doing maintenance. 24 hour market that goes down for hours at a time is unacceptable.
 
Charts work well for me. The main thing to keep in mind is that anything is possible and you have to able to know when you are wrong.
 
It's possible you get filled. I heard that about most of the exchanges. Makes the market almost untradable. I use Gemini and I hate how often they are doing maintenance. 24 hour market that goes down for hours at a time is unacceptable.

I have gtc on my Interactive brokers too on things that are flash crash levels.

You have to. I’ve seen both the flash crashes and it’s nice to say I woulda bought that 20% down. But truth is markets get locked and only a few shares trade at that price. The most recent one, I was trying to buy calls and the market just went like $50 wide. Couldn’t even trade it. So now I have gtc for stocks and btc.

No joke. I can get the trade ticket if you want. My mom had a gtc buy at $11,000 on gdax. The low was $10,400 , whenever that’s was like Wednesday/thurs. System shut down but she still got filled.
 
I have gtc on my Interactive brokers too on things that are flash crash levels.

You have to. I’ve seen both the flash crashes and it’s nice to say I woulda bought that 20% down. But truth is markets get locked and only a few shares trade at that price. The most recent one, I was trying to buy calls and the market just went like $50 wide. Couldn’t even trade it. So now I have gtc for stocks and btc.

No joke. I can get the trade ticket if you want. My mom had a gtc buy at $11,000 on gdax. The low was $10,400 , whenever that’s was like Wednesday/thurs. System shut down but she still got filled.

I got filled at $11,000 too yesterday. Put in order before I went to bed and woke up filled. The only thing about keeping orders open long term for things like flash crash is it locks up the money.
 
It kind of seems like what futures allows is big holders to take short positions in futures and start unloading. Ability to cash out without taking a big hit. And then buy back in lower.
 
Talked with my VC friend in the valley this week. I'm sharing info, not selling anything. This going to be long post and stream of conscience.

Bitcoin (BTC)
Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
This will not be mistyped.


For casual follower make simple:

BTC is Wall St. backed, meaning invested in and they will need a ROI. BTC will become centralized soon, next few years. it will become a digital fiat. So the whole notion of decentralized will be gone (for currency, store of value remains)

BCH is original satoshi, only thing changed is block size but this stays true to the white paper.

End simple version.


Satoshi wanted decentralized global payment network peer-2-peer and cheap. For all nations. BTC blew up and network effect ensued. BTC became/is unusable as a currency. Tiny block size that can only fit 3 transactions a second. Fee's were out of control, and nothing Satoshi designed. Scalability was needed. All this is say 2014 and prior.

BTC while open source, still take real money to pay developers (Dev). Many dev. groups have went broke, including MIT ones. Wall St. saw an opening and money. In 2014 Wall St. funded a Dev group called Blockstream. Block stream became the core dev's for BTC. They loved the high fee's from mining life was good. Block size small = high fee's, very limited transactions. Sotashi followers didn't like this. They wanted the original plan, high transactions, low fee's. Satoashi even put in space for free transactions but core took it out.

Enter August 2017 Fork.

Core/Blockstream had all the power and wanted small blocks, BTC forked into BTC and BCH. Blockstream, and I may use them synonomous with Core/BTC. Core wasn't scared at all from this fork because they had no real $ backing and no hashpower, aka miners. You see, I can fork BTC right now and call it AF coin. It's an open ledger. Why this doesn't work is due to no miners/hash power/followers.

Well BCH has risen and now BTC is scared.

BTC solution to scaling was thought out long ago in 2014. Small blocks, huge fee's and centralization. Enter the lightning network. BTC forked because they "said" segwit would solve scaling (remove the signature from the block. aka apply a layer of 3rd party on top of the block. This makes blocks have more transaction as the signatures used up space. Now enter lightening network again. To run lightning, you need segwit.

Lightening network = centralization aka fiat $. Lightning is fiat to the T. Here's how fiat started. Gold to heavy and not divisible. A depository started and said, give me your gold, and I'll give you paper IOU's to spend. If want gold back, bring me the IOU's. This is lightning. To use it you have to go off block, you put in a legit BTC (think gold bar) lightning depository gives you back a digital IOU you can use just like your BTC. This is very, very bad. This is centralization.

BTC core back in 2014 all had this plan. High fee's, then mask scaling solation with centralized depositories. These would be private companies and charge a fee to use. Not gonna get into all working of lightning, but you need each channel to have sufficient funds, this will be tough to do so they will have central depositories that have the funds and you use them to make the "jump" transaction.

BCH is just Sotashi original with block size moved up from 1MB to 8MB. That's it. Go do a BTC transaction right now. Will cost you $100 to send $1,000 if want in 1 hour. BCH is like 20 cents and be 10 minutes. Yes, hugely to do with volume but BCH can handle BTC's load right now.

So store of value, BTC is 100% fine. As a currency, nope and if lightning takes hold, it's centralized digital $ is all. So I'm way fine with BTC as store of value if that happens. But as a currency, not gonna work.

Litecoin and BCH way better pure decentralized plays. And all the Alt. coins but just talking these. For store of value and a currency, that, as of now is only BCH. Litecoin is awesome at transactions, but will be centralized too and would be poor store of value.

As of now, I switched 1/2 my holdings of BTC to BCH. BTC is simply a trade on the name and 1st mover. It only has store of value, no currency. BCH as of now, can be store of value and a currency.

Things I do know. Blockchain is the internet, coins are the tech companies. Only a few Yahoo's, IBM's will make it out aka coins. I have no idea which ones. But what I do know, is the Google coin has yet to be invented but is to come. Is the Google coin the transaction and BTC/BCH the savings account/Gold? Maybe. Doesn't really matter as all we know is now. My horse is BCH as the current all around solution. For sure you have Manero, etc and all the coins that can't be tracked.

Super excited for the future. This is TCP/IP all over again in another form. But, like always, follow the money. And that’s exactly what BTC is. High fees, side chains and needed/used for even more fees. Follow the money baby. This ain’t gonna work in the post 2008 world for long.

Edit: I’m in BTC for trade and store of value.

I’m HODL BCH.

I am holding more BCH than BTC so I can HODL. But, I have heard that BCH was only allowed to be bought on Coinbase when it went up. Nobody can sell BCH on coinbase until the first of the year.

I hate getting wipsawed so I just HODL the BCH attack vector.

The less you move, the more coiled you get.
 
I don't understand who was selling the BCH on coinbase if nobody was allowed to sell. Doesn't sound strange to anyone else?
 
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