Builder refusing entry under construction

[TerryRohrer]

Just yell ICE and the place will clear out for you to inspect.

Is that like yelling, "Fire!", in a crowded theatre?

 

[Tom4value]

Update:
Client is ok with my not entering so fight with builder averted. However, I did tell them I will need detailed plans with INTERIOR DIMENSIONS, something I could have gotten on my own if I was allowed to enter.

I just think that it is unreasonable for them to prevent me from entering, like my job isn't important. You think they will tell the electrical/plumbing inspectors, "sorry, for liability reasons, we can't have you in there"?

 

[Tom4value]

Never had that situation. I would tell them that visiting a model unit was not acceptable unless they also provided copies of the plans and specifications for the unit to be appraised. If they refuse, kick it back to the Client and let them deal with it. Appraisers do appraisals on proposed dwellings. You don't have to inspect the interior of the subject if you are doing an 'as completed' appraisal.

What you can do is include comments in the appraisal report that state that the builder refused to allow you to access the interior of the subject improvents and that your appraisal is based on plans, specifications, exterior only inspection of the subject unit, and (if you want to do it) a walk through of a model unit.

Never even considered inspecting a similar unit. I am appraising THIS property, not some other one. Turns out, client is ok with my not going in so I informed the builder that I will need "this, this and this", including detailed inside dimensions. Yes, my report will detail how and why I inspected the property.

 

[Tom D]

You are not a contractor who carries that type work liabilities insurance. Maybe they had a problem with an appraiser that cost them money. I did years of new construction with only samples and you are being whatever. But that's your business decision. Not that's there anything wrong with being a whatever. Blue prints? I always like the model handouts, easier to put that stuff in my report. Do they have a sales office where you could meander the blueprints.

 

[Tom D]

Is that like yelling, "Fire!", in a crowded theatre?

Yes, if you can do it in spanish.

 

[Tom4value]

You are not a contractor who carries that type work liabilities insurance. Maybe they had a problem with an appraiser that cost them money. I did years of new construction with only samples and you are being whatever. But that's your business decision. Not that's there anything wrong with being a whatever. Blue prints? I always like the model handouts, easier to put that stuff in my report. Do they have a sales office where you could meander the blueprints.

I guess you have a point about the insurance.

Don’t know what you mean about a “whatever”. Do you mean being a “Richard”? I don’t call asking for detailed plans and specs from a reputable builder being a whatever. I call it doing my job. “Model handouts” are seriously lacking in sufficient information and the rudimentary sketch doesn’t have dimensions.

 

[J Grant]

Update:
Client is ok with my not entering so fight with builder averted. However, I did tell them I will need detailed plans with INTERIOR DIMENSIONS, something I could have gotten on my own if I was allowed to enter.

I just think that it is unreasonable for them to prevent me from entering, like my job isn't important. You think they will tell the electrical/plumbing inspectors, "sorry, for liability reasons, we can't have you in there"?

The builder decided for their own reasons - maybe they were sued at some point for someone entering a half-finished site. Be a professional do your job, the client lender is okay with it.

 

[Tom4value]

The builder decided for their own reasons - maybe they were sued at some point for someone entering a half-finished site. Be a professional do your job, the client lender is okay with it.

Oh, yeah. No problem. Don’t misunderstand.

I have been doing this dog and pony show for going on 34 years and when I encounter something I have never seen before, this ole’ dog wants to talk about it! LOL