California Licensing Fees Increased to $1,030 Every Two Years

[Lil Rhody]

Is that similar to other states? Heard NJ is like $1,200 every two years?

Not similar at all to where I'm at. In Rhode Island the renewal fee is $480 every 2 years regardless of licensure level.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

The ASC national registry? Is that even an option not to be listed on it? I thought it was required for all states to send in the info.

Yes, it is an option. Appraisers must be on the National Registry to perform appraisals for federally-related transactions.

 

[RCA]

OK and AR combined are about $650 per year. AR reduced their fee and we pay on line, get our license in days and CE goes to the state from the provider and is posted on the website. OK still takes a check but turned my license around in 10 days. Efficiency? What is the issue in CA with 10 jillion computer experts there?

And Bert, a reviewer of your report might start with spell checking... "Pitty"???

You've never seen one of my reports. So, you are running off at the mouth again, so to say.

Presbyopia. Lasik has corrected my near-sightedness and astigmatism. I can drive down the road just fine without glasses. But, presbyopia cannot be corrected.

But sitting at my elevated desks with 3 big screens, two flat on the side and one curved in the center, is a problem. The big flat ones are the worst. Important tasks related to real work, like Visual Studio, go on the curved screen. My flat 32" Samsung on the side is the home of forums like this one. And it invariably has patches that are blurry.

My spelling problem is the result of having to switch between 4 pairs of reading glasses. I've got 4 pairs of classes. Even the progressives don't work when you have 3 large screens in front of you. Invariably certain areas are blurry because the distance from my eyes to the screen varies unless I pay attention and am focused on just one screen. - And forum stuff is just a relaxed side excursion, so I am not expending the same effort as I would programming or doing an appraisal. As I switch my view from one screen to another, I'm too lazy to switch glasses or move forward or backward. Sigh, yes I am being a bit irresponsible.

As far as this forum goes, you will just have to live with what you get. It's of secondary importance to me - and gets the 32" flat screen. Maybe I will get the money to by another LG ultra-wide curved screen --- but maybe next year. Even so, my sitting position is ideal only for the center screen where the more important stuff goes.

Hey - but anyway, I swear I've come across posts from you where the spelling was so atrocious, I thought you must have woke up with a hangover or something before you submitted the post.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

I can spell pity without my glasses on

 

[RCA]

You've never seen one of my reports. So, you are running off at the mouth again, so to say.

Presbyopia. Lasik has corrected my near-sightedness and astigmatism. I can drive down the road just fine without glasses. But, presbyopia cannot be corrected.

But sitting at my elevated desks with 3 big screens, two flat on the side and one curved in the center, is a problem. The big flat ones are the worst. Important tasks related to real work, like Visual Studio, go on the curved screen. My flat 32" Samsung on the side is the home of forums like this one. And it invariably has patches that are blurry.

My spelling problem is the result of having to switch between 4 pairs of reading glasses. I've got 4 pairs of classes. Even the progressives don't work when you have 3 large screens in front of you. Invariably certain areas are blurry because the distance from my eyes to the screen varies unless I pay attention and am focused on just one screen. - And forum stuff is just a relaxed side excursion, so I am not expending the same effort as I would programming or doing an appraisal. As I switch my view from one screen to another, I'm too lazy to switch glasses or move forward or backward. Sigh, yes I am being a bit irresponsible.

As far as this forum goes, you will just have to live with what you get. It's of secondary importance to me - and gets the 32" flat screen. Maybe I will get the money to by another LG ultra-wide curved screen --- but maybe next year. Even so, my sitting position is ideal only for the center screen where the more important stuff goes.

I can spell pity without my glasses on

No, I've got better things to do ... than go find those old atrocious posts that stick in my memory, somewhere in my email archives.

 

[glenn walker]

Gp

One interesting result would be on semi-retired appraisers like myself. I think there are a good number of these and growing. I'm sure many just keep their license because they don't want to lose it. The real cost of maintaining a license is the insurance cost + license cost. Throw in the fact that for many appraisers, retirement income is going to be minimal and we might expect the impact of these fee increases will be to force more experienced appraisers out of the field sooner, rather than later. It will mean less income for the BREA.

What the BREA should do is force all California appraisals through them for monitoring and charge a minimal 1% fee or $10 whichever is the greater. That would greatly increase their income while keeping a reserve of experienced appraisers for periods when there is extra demand for appraisals. In fact, as I have always said going back many years, all orders should be routed through the BREA ... which would make them the one and only AMC. That would, believe it or not, be very good for appraisers - except for those running AMCs.

I personally know two appraisers that are not renewing next year but they told me that before the new licensing fees were released. Both over 65 years old and burned out. My guess is BREA may have shot themselves in the foot because this may force some older guys to bail.

 

[RCA]

Gp

I personally know two appraisers that are not renewing next year but they told me that before the new licensing fees were released. Both over 65 years old and burned out. My guess is BREA may have shot themselves in the foot because this may force some older guys to bail.

At the risk of bringing in something political, I think this should be mentioned. Yea, I know it is a touchy subject, as there are Democrats, Independents and Republicans on the forum and probably appraisers from a few other different parties. But, it is becoming more of an issue. The wildfires, the Green movement, homelessness and on and on - politics impacting appraisal. ESPECIALLY in California.

The employees working for the State of California are affected by state politics, no getting around that. And this is going to affect appraisers, in my humble opinion.

Like I have said for years (on other forums), this political stuff runs in families!! I know this personally, for some time, through people I have grown up with and acquaintances going way back. You will find this in families around Portland and Eugene, Oregon going way back to the days of the Communists and Labor Unions in the 1920's and 1930's. We are now seeing the emergence of underlying activities with the emergence of Trump. The radical terrorist Weathermen movement is re-emerging, and if you are branded as a conservative or Republican, be cautious.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/10/chesa-boudin-weather-underground-san-francisco-da

"After college, Boudin had a spell working as a translator for Hugo Chávez, the late president of Venezuela. On Saturday night in San Francisco, he declared victory after four days of ballot-counting determined he was ahead of Suzy Loftus. Results from the San Francisco department of elections gave Boudin victory by 2,825 votes. Loftus, the interim district attorney, said she would work to ensure a smooth transition."

That politics affects appraisal is reality. It is going to be the new reality.

Hopefully, this post gets undertanding from our local censor. Maybe some lines have to be drawn. But discussing politics is inevitable. Just keep the emotion out.

 

[Overimprovement]

I think this is just the beginning of woes for any/all CA residents. I have seen financial death spirals at the local (small city) level, but CA seems to have passed over the whirlpool's edge on a state level. There is simply not enough money to support all the programs being passed, and as more and more people say enough and leave, that leaves less and less taxpayer money to pay for the unchanging programs.

Government almost never shrinks, and programs, once passed, are extremely hard to un-pass.

While I love so many things in CA, I wish all you residents the best in what I fear will be an extremely unpleasant next 5-10 years and beyond.

 

[RCA]

I think this is just the beginning of woes for any/all CA residents. I have seen financial death spirals at the local (small city) level, but CA seems to have passed over the whirlpool's edge on a state level. There is simply not enough money to support all the programs being passed, and as more and more people say enough and leave, that leaves less and less taxpayer money to pay for the unchanging programs.

Government almost never shrinks, and programs, once passed, are extremely hard to un-pass.

While I love so many things in CA, I wish all you residents the best in what I fear will be an extremely unpleasant next 5-10 years and beyond.

Watch Boudin, a Yale graduate and Rhodes Scholar, he may be running for Governor or Senator at some point in the future. And everything under him gets impacted. There are some areas of the government in Sacramento that are already absolutely crazy.

The drive to pull in more out-of-state homeless and immigrants, give them voting rights and get them to the polls almost ensures that this political trend cannot be reversed.

So, you hit the nail on the head, so to say. We are doomed.

 

[ucbruin]

No one likes increased fees....
Wait, we do want increased fees....

Seriously, who is going to stop appraising because of the cost of a license?
Only those appraisers who were already planning to stop....