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California makes another change re: trainees!

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Alan Ayoub said:
for the record...

Eric and Alan arnt married although some people think we are. This is probably the 30th post where someone typed "Eric & Alan" like we're a couple.


We're a "couple" of iconoclasts, challenging the status quo and conventional wisdom. Another effect of college education. Just a few centuries ago, we'd have been charged with heresy and promptly executed.
 
Why would you assume that you two guys are the only ones on this thread with a 4-year degree? What could possibly lead you to such a completely wrong guess? Get real. Get a clue.

Look, before this goes any farther, consider this: MOST people on this forum have led successful lives prior to getting into appraising. MOST people had other skills before they got in and could do other things to make a buck besides appraising. MOST people have had to work hard in order to get in and have had to work hard in order to stay in. If you've had prior successes and you're working hard, that doesn't make you a standout among us, that makes you one of the herd.
 
Cynthia Hamilton said:
They didn't do it because they listen to appraisers. They did it because they listen to the AQB.


Actually, I know that many people, including myself, have been in touch with OREA regularly about the problems trainees have been running into. In fact, OREA has started (by invitation) sending representatives from their office to regional association meetings to meet with trainees and teach them proper workfile maintenance, hours and logs, answering questions about proper reporting, USPAP, etc. I see this latest development as an extension of that, and it seems like it is coming from both appraisers and the AQB. A lot of the changes California is making (with regard to trainees, independent of AQB changes) had been a 'hot topic' in the appraisal community for a long time. JMO.
 
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Cindy Elam said:
Jodie, what do you think about OREA cutting the license fees? I think we'd be better served if they kept the fees the same, and used the surplus to hire more help. It seems silly to be so short-handed, and then lower the fees.

I'd be willing to bet they are doing this because a lot of appraisers will soon be on 'inactive' status..if things keep slowing down...and this will make it easier for them to keep their licenses in a downturn. Fewer license upgrades and applications means fewer employees to pay as well. Just a guess.
 
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erick anderson said:
We're a "couple" of iconoclasts, challenging the status quo and conventional wisdom. Another effect of college education. Just a few centuries ago, we'd have been charged with heresy and promptly executed.

The title of the thread is "California makes another change re: trainees!"

Please stick to and discuss THAT topic. To discuss your personality traits go to the Lounge.
 
I have a question in reference to the supervisor and trainee changes as of 9/7/2006. On the OREA site, right below that statment is the link which takes you to a page stating that the changes will be effective 1/1/2008. I am confused as to which is actually valid, and I do not know how anyone else ever gets through to the OREA, I always end up holding forever.
 
BTW, usual hold time for OREA is 45 minutes. :)

They originally made the changes effective 09/06, then backpedalled as fast as they could when the uproar hit them from the skippy mills and trainees. Cowards. :angry:
 
Cynthia Hamilton said:
BTW, usual hold time for OREA is 45 minutes. :)

They originally made the changes effective 09/06, then backpedalled as fast as they could when the uproar hit them from the skippy mills and trainees. Cowards. :angry:

California is one of the larger economies on the planet. Guess the Governator didn't "fix" the state after all. LOL
 
"Supervising Appraisers must now be licensed at the Certified level and may not supervise more than three appraisers at one time. This is big! Before, licensed appraisers could be a supervisor and the sky was the limit on the number of appraisers one could "supervise"."

FYI, per the OREA they will not be enforcing this until 1/1/08 as long as your experience with your supervisory appraiser has started prior to the 9-7-06 date, your log and trainee hours will count. Their site has both the 9-7-06 and the 1-1-08 dates for the change in different areas which is confusing. I spoke to them directly as I am not yet certified and have a trainee. :O)
 
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