Cont. Ed. is a Joke

[Surf Cat]

Everyone knows they are sending their favorites the bulk of work, but they need to show they "tried" other vendors if questioned.

They did try...... the other vendors wouldn't take it for 200 bucks.

 

[Non Sequitur]

They did try...... the other vendors wouldn't take it for 200 bucks.

Or weren't quick enough. It's a dang shame but residential mortgage work has turned into Uber style gig work.

 

[Webbed Feet]

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Bias classes have shown we have unconscious bias <snip>

A certain group of Germans during the 1940's had copious numbers of studies and "classes" that they claimed proved which races they believed were inferior were indeed inferior. They also wanted the world to believe that what they set out to "prove" was indeed proven by their studies and "classes" about those studies. Perhaps these "bias classes" are nothing more than an echo from out of the past that those who are up on history should see for what they really are. One would think that especially real estate appraisers, that must internally always fight the taking of a path to a self-fulfilling prophecy final opinion of value, would clearly see an educational topic that is guilty of doing just that.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

On the other hand, there are also courses one can take to actually learn something new.

Indeed, they are but where are they offered? When fees were better, I took classes in Houston, Ruidoso, Denver, Tulsa, Okla City, & Ardmore, OK, Wichita, Albuquerque, & Murfreesboro, TN. They were usually 2-day events, real education, and typically more expensive than classes taught much closer. The online classes basically ended a lot of providers who developed classes. With only a few students to fund the class, it became a money loser for an independent provider. I can think of 4 regional providers who are no longer in business. And some of the better were bought out as the instructor retired - like Columbia and Lincoln. The availability of top flight classes are limited to large cities for the most part, with a few smaller towns offered by rural associations like ASFMRA.

So, with compensation for our services wholly inadequate, I don't blame anyone for taking the nearby cheap classes. After all, I'd had to spend up to 3 nights in a motel to take a class. The cost of the class was less than the motel bill. 3 days off work, travel expenses, motel, and class means well over $1,000 for 14 hours of CE. Meanwhile you net only $50-70k for appraising. Makes no sense.

 

[Fritz in NY]

The "classes" we take are not our classes. They are approved class hours by WHO?. The APF, State, Fed's. Reminds me of lemmings running off a cliff. A great CG (RIP), of mine, 45 years in the Biz, stopped taking Cont. Ed. all together for his last 3-4 years. No one questioned or audited any of his "paperwork", just rubber stamped it and he continued on with his day. He saved hundreds of hours of his life, $ thousands in hotel, travel & class fees and lost NO income to be burdened by the Education Requirements. He could have been an instructor, but said NO, It's all BS.
Just a thought, if 1/2 of us just said no, every 2 year cycle, and took a few Extra Vacation days, what would the "Regulators" of our license do? They would be overwhelmed with investigations, paperwork and have a backlog of 20-40 months to fine us $$. BTW, my friends wife got a Bill from NYS DEPT. Of State for $ 1,100. for failure to comply, 1 year after he was deceased.
We still do stupid, you can't teach stupid, AMC's & the State Government think we are stupid.

 

[J Grant]

IT sounds like the CG did not take the classes because he knew it was the last cycle of his license and he would not renew. The states rigorously check that the continuing education class hours are met before they will renew a license.

 

[TerryRohrer]

IT sounds like the CG did not take the classes because he knew it was the last cycle of his license and he would not renew. The states rigorously check that the continuing education class hours are met before they will renew a license.

Do you ever know what you are talking about when you post? There may be states that check, but there are states that seldom check. For years, Montana did not check. They were caught by the ASC and for a few years, every appraiser had to submit their class certificates with their renewal application. Since that probation period passed, they collect a checkmark during renewal where you indicate you have completed the required education. That doesn't qualify as "rigorously checking".

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

IT sounds like the CG did not take the classes because he knew it was the last cycle of his license and he would not renew.

Same tactic I am using. I will retire before I have to pay for another course.