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Steven, that's what I call answering the guys question. Very informative, chock full of information. Good Job.:) :clapping:
 
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Steve -- Yes, I do. In our area there are few zones sold and his information is verifiable.

MAI interest is primarily commercial/industrial and it gives them an income flow from the residential side without extra employees.
I suppose it could be true. Inserra and Verret reportedly have 58 zones between them. Last time I looked, that was about 5% of all zones sold. There was a cluster of zones sold in Chicago, which might be one of their AI cohorts. It could most that most of the zones are owned people with an MAI designation, even if most of the people who own zones are not MAI's.
 
Oh well,

I will stay away from this. Must be because I am in over my head. Let an MAI do this one.
 
58 Zones? How in the world would one adequately complete all the scoring of the properties you might ask?

Rumor has it, this is being outsourced to India. I kid you not. I'm not stating Ken and Thomas specifically, as I have no information on that. I do know that some zone owners were contacted by 'scorers' from India offering their services as they had provided to other zone owners. Completely devalues the product in my mind.

http://appraisalnewsonline.typepad.com/appraisal_news_for_real_e/2008/02/zaio---the-movi.html


I was actually considering going to the Albuquerque bruhaha for Zaio just to keep an open mind and take a look. After reading that Zone owners were actually outsourcing the scoring process, among a few other very disturbing statements and inferrances made on a youtube video, I think I'd rather spend the evening at an Amway party. :leeann:
 
58 Zones? How in the world would one adequately complete all the scoring of the properties you might ask?

Rumor has it, this is being outsourced to India. I kid you not. I'm not stating Ken and Thomas specifically, as I have no information on that. I do know that some zone owners were contacted by 'scorers' from India offering their services as they had provided to other zone owners. Completely devalues the product in my mind.

http://appraisalnewsonline.typepad.com/appraisal_news_for_real_e/2008/02/zaio---the-movi.html


I was actually considering going to the Albuquerque bruhaha for Zaio just to keep an open mind and take a look. After reading that Zone owners were actually outsourcing the scoring process, among a few other very disturbing statements and inferrances made on a youtube video, I think I'd rather spend the evening at an Amway party. :leeann:

I wouldn't believe that, certainly not yet. Someone show specifically where Zaio or a known Zaio identity has claimed to using keyboardists in India to do "geoscoring". I haven't seen it. The India issue; as related to Ken Verrett, work in India was selected for "clerical" work for the appraisal company, not geoscoring. Maybe I"m wrong, but I've seen no clear data otherwise. I think the issue was mentioned in Appraisal Scoop.
 
I wonder how client and appraiser communities will react. Zaio should announce that it does geoscoring in India if that's the case.
"it does geo-scoring? :shrug:

ONE GUY who owns zones said he had a part time clerical person in India.

The last thing this forum needs is to give Zaio evidence that the analysis of its business and appraisal practices on this forum isn't sane. "Zaio" doesn't score the properties.
 
"it does geo-scoring? :shrug:

ONE GUY who owns zones said he had a part time clerical person in India.

The last thing this forum needs is to give Zaio evidence that the analysis of its business and appraisal practices on this forum isn't sane. "Zaio" doesn't score the properties.

Good point Steve. Perhaps Zaio the corporation doesn't or wouldn't directly hand off "geoscoring" to India, it might be zone-owning appraisers who choose to? How at liberty zone owners are to alter processes is not something I'm aware of. Ken Verrett's team in Houston is off the hook, but it's a San Diego post at ActiveRain that just drew my attention.

Here is a post from ActiveRain that indicates a Zaiotista claims to be using people in India for his geoscoring work:

* ZaioForum Re: Non appraiser assistance in Geoscoring - 2 messages said:
http://groups.google.com/group/zaio/browse_thread/thread/49b8de338482c8db?h[/U]
l=en


and here is the post I was referring to: Eddy *(email given - to find it, go back to the ActiveRain link) wrote:


As many of you know I have my scoring done in India which is going
quite well. I brought this up at the Zaio conferance in LV but have
seen little change. I'm looking for a daily log of changes to a zone.
Mostly from Zaio but it could include things I do too. So that one
could go back and see how many say photos were added or records scored
on a particular day. It shouldn't be that hard to do and I know that
we have more then a few but it would be a great help to those of us
that are working with other contractors of our work. Thanks much.

E.C.
San Diego, CA"

I removed the Eddy email address in the quote. It's available in the original at ActiveRain. A blog post like that is not proof that E.C. in San Diego exists, that he has any zones and that he has "scoring" done in India. If Eddy is real and doing what he says, I'd expect Zaio to put a stop to it.:nono:
 
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