Contaminated drywall (China) in FL

[Mr Rex]

You should make T-Shirts.

I've got a guy in China that will do them dirt cheap, and for a little extra, no lead in the lettering.

 

[Workbox]

I've got a guy in China that will do them dirt cheap, and for a little extra, no lead in the lettering.

Did you know that one of those $10 garden rakes at the big box stores cost about $0.50 in China? I found out also, that the same rake cost about $2 more to make in Mexico, and better quality? Compare the Home Depot Brand "Bronco" to Lowes "Truper" , big difference in quality. As for American made? Usually they are specialty tools and those that are garden rakes are similar in price, but noticeable diffence in quality, either similar to good quality or better.

 

[Crunch Hardtack]

Motts apple juice.

For years I had been buying Kroger apple juice for my kid, when one day I noticed the "concentrate of China" stamp that was lightly printed on the upper part of the container. I immediately stopped purchasing it. The wife wondered why I was so upset.

Back in 1987 I had the opportunity to go to China. Keep in mind that although China is a bit larger than the U.S., the livable land area is roughly similar. In 1987 the Chinese population was 1.1 billion. Today it's 1.3 billion (an increase of 200 million people in 21 years), compared to the 304 million we have in the U.S. It has been estimated that 80% of American lakes and rivers have high levels of heavy metals. (In Ohio there are recommended limits on how much fish you should eat, depending on where you caught it.)

In 1987 China was a polluted wasteland and that was before modern industrialization really got going over there. Look at the efforts that were made to clean up Beijing before the Olympics. I shudder to think of how bad the pollution is now. I also understand that there is just enough potable water to supply each person with the minimum daily requirement. In the next 5-10 years, without a significant effort made by China to provide more water to it's citizenry, there will be a water shortage........let's not forget that modern industry uses a lot of water as well.

I do not think there is any question that China is knowingly putting some of it's industrial waste into exported products. They are also dumping billions of used plastic containers into the Pacific ocean. To illustrate but one example of how American companies are putting profit above public safety, Tyson foods is heavily lobbying to have the country of origin not be disclosed on chicken products. Why? They are trying to import large quantities of Chinese chicken, much of which is raised by peasant farmers who routinely ship diseased poultry. Yet Tyson's TV ads tout the wholsomeness and healthfulness of it's chicken. Also, the last time I checked the exchange rate was about 6.8 yuan to the dollar. (China is one of the few countries where the dollar is still worth something) Accordingly, chicken can be purchased much more cheaply in China.

Link : http://www.mindfully.org/Food/Tyson-Against-COOL4dec02.htm

 

[Mountain Man]

Da$*, now we've got to look for the Made In China mark on houses?

 

[Deleted member 77547]

I read somewhere where China imports, well smuggles, chicken products in containers that are mislabeled as other products.

 

[Crunch Hardtack]

I read somewhere where China imports, well smuggles, chicken products in containers that are mislabeled as other products.

Would not surprise me in the least.

 

[Caterina Platt]

For years I had been buying Kroger apple juice for my kid, when one day I noticed the "concentrate of China" stamp that was lightly printed on the upper part of the container. I immediately stopped purchasing it. The wife wondered why I was so upset.

Back in 1987 I had the opportunity to go to China. Keep in mind that although China is a bit larger than the U.S., the livable land area is roughly similar. In 1987 the Chinese population was 1.1 billion. Today it's 1.3 billion (an increase of 200 million people in 21 years), compared to the 304 million we have in the U.S. It has been estimated that 80% of American lakes and rivers have high levels of heavy metals. (In Ohio there are recommended limits on how much fish you should eat, depending on where you caught it.)

In 1987 China was a polluted wasteland and that was before modern industrialization really got going over there. Look at the efforts that were made to clean up Beijing before the Olympics. I shudder to think of how bad the pollution is now. I also understand that there is just enough potable water to supply each person with the minimum daily requirement. In the next 5-10 years, without a significant effort made by China to provide more water to it's citizenry, there will be a water shortage........let's not forget that modern industry uses a lot of water as well.

I do not think there is any question that China is knowingly putting some of it's industrial waste into exported products. They are also dumping billions of used plastic containers into the Pacific ocean. To illustrate but one example of how American companies are putting profit above public safety, Tyson foods is heavily lobbying to have the country of origin not be disclosed on chicken products. Why? They are trying to import large quantities of Chinese chicken, much of which is raised by peasant farmers who routinely ship diseased poultry. Yet Tyson's TV ads tout the wholsomeness and healthfulness of it's chicken. Also, the last time I checked the exchange rate was about 6.8 yuan to the dollar. (China is one of the few countries where the dollar is still worth something) Accordingly, chicken can be purchased much more cheaply in China.

Link : http://www.mindfully.org/Food/Tyson-Against-COOL4dec02.htm

Crunch,

Here's a video for you. It's not only Chinese chicken. This news investigation was done in the UK, and it's a pretty good synopsis of what large production, low margin farming, as well as your large box grocery store has become and done to the quality of our food supply. I'm not a big one to spend more for 'organic', or shop at Whole Foods simply so I can feel more 'green and superior to others'. After watching this video, I am considering spending more of my money in local butcher shops, farmer's markets, and raising what I can on my own. Whole Foods and Sunflower may become a bigger bit of my grocery budget as well.

It's a long video presentation - about 48 minutes, but well worth it. And for you guys, the investigator lady is a cute blonde with a lovely British accent. If you hang out at the site this video came from, Dr. Mercola's comments and website are good, but take him with a grain of salt when appropriate. I'm not a full fledged proponent of his, but he does offer some good info. He's out to sell stuff, just like anyone else and there's good and not so worth it products on his site.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...to-avoid-being-fooled-at-the-supermarket.aspx

BTW, knowing that Terrell has a good bit of experience with the poultry industry in his home state, I'm hoping he takes a peek at this video. I'd love to hear his comparison and comments if the US is any worse or better than what is seen in that video.

 

[AJL118]

Might be some human parts mixed in too? They have more humans than chickens. LOL

 

[c w d]

Crunch,
I'm not a big one to spend more for 'organic', or shop at Whole Foods simply so I can feel more 'green and superior to others'.

Nor should you. Whole Foods imports some of it's certified "organic" products from where? You got it, China. I find it hard to believe that with the level of contamination in virtually every type of product we receive from China that Whole Foods could actually certify anything coming out of that country. Sure, they might be able to certify a product at the time that its production methods were inspected. But, I seriously doubt that it would remain organic for very long.

I have to agree with Crunch. I find it hard to believe that the level of contamination coming from China is mere accident. The scope of contamination is too broad to easily be dismissed as nothing more than loose regulation.

 

[MS Rebel]

It is not only food and toys. This is beyond belief.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601295.html

I do not take any kind of medication - but hubby is on 4 or 5 different pills. I think I'd rather take my chances. (I'm up chit creek if I get sick cause I'm not taking anything!)

these wonderful $4 prescriptions will end up killing thousands before anyone finds out what it is. And by then China and India will import 80% of the ingredients used in all drugs in this country.