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Do they have bond/insurance to back up the "accuracy" of their data? If so maybe they will do more due diligence in verifying the data.
No way they'll ever get caught if everybody changes their findings to match "the company's". Until disaster strikes, and some poor borrower is left uninsured & homeless.…
 
No way they'll ever get caught if everybody changes their findings to match "the company's". Until disaster strikes, and some poor borrower is left uninsured & homeless.…
All the data are out there and they can collect them. Whether the data is accurate is crucial if to be relied on in doing the appraisal.

My duplex has larger gross area than stated in assessor's records because long time ago for some reason, the garage space was included in total gross area.
I should mention this to my insurance company to get lower premium.
Anyway, based on assessor's records my "large" gross area house should be valued more if ever I get a desktop/driveby appraisal.
 
All the data are out there and they can collect them. Whether the data is accurate is crucial if to be relied on in doing the appraisal.

My duplex has larger gross area than stated in assessor's records because long time ago for some reason, the garage space was included in total gross area.
I should mention this to my insurance company to get lower premium.
Anyway, based on assessor's records my "large" gross area house should be valued more if ever I get a desktop/driveby appraisal.
Here is how I explained the situation to one of my clients the last time it came up. Feel free to plagiarize at will.

Hi Christina, the situation comes up often. I am appraising the whole site, not just the improvements. The lender's flood certification exempts them from obtaining flood insurance on the property, however, the rear portion of the subject site IS LOCATED in a FEMA Flood Hazard Area and the appraisal has to reflect such. I actually asked the borrower how many times that creek had flooded since he lived there & he said “four times, quite a ways onto his property”, however, it never got close enough to the house to worry him. See the below flood map which is current and correct. Everybody needs to ask themselves what would happen if somebody built something valuable at the back of that site and it washed away? And there was an audit trail showing that the flood hazard area was pointed out in the appraisal and then later changed for some reason? I agree that it would be easier for the lender if I just changed the appraisal, however, this is one instance where the underwriter has to do a little extra documentation work, and not simply ask the appraiser to revise the report for the sake of expediency. Most flood certifications that I have seen point out the fact that although a portion of the subject site lies within the flood hazard area, the "dwelling and related improvements" are clear of the flood zone , however, this one does not some reason and said determinations should probably be sourced from a different vendor in the future to avoid this type of confusion.
 
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Here is how I explained the situation to one of my clients the last time it came up. Feel free to plagiarize at will.

Hi Christina, the situation comes up often. I am appraising the whole site, not just the improvements. The lender's flood certification exempts them from obtaining flood insurance on the property, however, the rear portion of the subject site IS LOCATED in a FEMA Flood Hazard Area and the appraisal has to reflect such. I actually asked the borrower how many times that creek had flooded since he lived there & he said “four times, quite a ways onto his property”, however, it never got close enough to the house to worry him. See the below flood map which is current and correct. Everybody needs to ask themselves what would happen if somebody built something valuable at the back of that site and it washed away? And there was an audit trail showing that the flood hazard area was pointed out in the appraisal and then later changed for some reason? I agree that it would be easier for the lender if I just changed the appraisal, however, this is one instance where the underwriter has to do a little extra documentation work, and not simply ask the appraiser to revise the report for the sake of expediency. Most flood certifications that I have seen point out the fact that although a portion of the subject site lies within the flood hazard area, the "dwelling and related improvements" are clear of the flood zone , however, this one does not some reason and said determinations should probably be sourced from a different vendor in the future to avoid this type of confusion.
In the appraisal report, I would state that Owner/Borrower had experienced flooding issues four times during their ownership (which should be a red flag) and appraiser observed subject to be in FEMA Flood Hazard Area. Client however indicated subject to be in Flood Zone XX from "So So" Flood company.

Then I put paragraph of disclaimers that I'm not a Flood expert.
 
In the appraisal report, I would state that Owner/Borrower had experienced flooding issues four times during their ownership (which should be a red flag) and appraiser observed subject to be in FEMA Flood Hazard Area. Client however indicated subject to be in Flood Zone XX from "So So" Flood company.

Then I put paragraph of disclaimers that I'm not a Flood expert.
That would be a definite "fail" in my example above, and bad advice for any future forumite to follow.
 
That would be a definite "fail" in my example above, and bad advice for any future forumite to follow.
What's wrong with stating the facts and what I observed and let reader know what I know but not making my personal conclusions.
Even WHO still inconclusive if aspartame in our diet sodas causes cancer (though FDA says it's safe). Many things are not clear and conclusive. ;)
 
Fernando is the guy who claimed that the date of the contract to use on the 1004 was the date of the first offer, no matter how many counter offers and no matter what date the contract was finally consummated days later with an agreement to contract. So, its not a surprise his take on FEMA flood zone. Do I want to say its suck up to the mortgage broker, no, its now suck up to the AMC clerk with no appraisal education or experience.
 
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