DEMO & Removal costs for a back yard shed?

[apt20]

Burn it down, contact a volunteer dept and see if they want a pratice controlled burn.

In Illinois, we aren't allowed to do that anymore unless we have fed and state EPA permission and an asbestos inspection(and abatement if necessary). If its in town, forget about it. This has really cut down on our practice burns. One last year, none this year.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

they were in was known as Chicken Ridge

You making fun of chickens? Drop ceiling, waterers, drinkers, overhead heaters....we don't use no stinking OSB...we use vinyl and metal..

As for FHA.

The property inspection section does require the appraiser note any peeling paint on sheds and other exterior buildings, items in addition to the house. Otherwise, it is totally quiet on any subject not dealing with a livable space.

[URL]http://www.HUD.gov/offices/adm/hudclips/handbooks/hsgh/4150.2/41502c3HSGH.pdf[/URL]

 

[Papoua Jose]

How long would it take a couple of guys with sledgehammers and a pickup truck to knock it down, throw it in a truck and take it to the dump?

I did that with crowbars and two thirteen year-old kids. 10 x 20 dirt floor garage/shed. Took an afternoon and three trips to the dump.

It was a blast watching the kids go ape wild beating and tearing up on it and was all fun and games until they almost tore out the main roof beam they were standing on.

Good times!

 

[prasercat]

You making fun of chickens? Drop ceiling, waterers, drinkers, overhead heaters....we don't use no stinking OSB...we use vinyl and metal..

As for FHA.

The property inspection section does require the appraiser note any peeling paint on sheds and other exterior buildings, items in addition to the house. Otherwise, it is totally quiet on any subject not dealing with a livable space.

[URL="http://www.HUD.gov/offices/adm/hudclips/handbooks/hsgh/4150.2/41502c3HSGH.pdf"][url]http://www.HUD.gov/offices/adm/hudclips/handbooks/hsgh/4150.2/41502c3HSGH.pdf[/URL][/URL]

Terrel, an outdoor covered patio is a livable space. The design, which is mostly a roof over slab and fully open on two sides , with a couple closets at the back, is functionally not much different than a detached covered patio.

But even if that wasn't the case, then, you would have just recommened painting the interior and exterior of the rotten collapsing structure to comply with the other safety issues but the collapsing portion of the safety issue could be ignored because you could deem it not a living area in the subject yard?

I'm not trying to be a smarty pants here, I would have been much happier to concentrate on the appraising rather than feeling shackled by FHA/HUD protocols and making demands, if there was some sort of FHA/HUD loophole.

Other logical choices, especially after speaking with the homeowner (like reconstructing the shed was not even a consideration for her), were and are not apparent to me.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

outdoor covered patio is a livable space

since when? Maybe I should rent out my barns for living quarters

and your OP said nothing about an attached patio

loafing shed where there are no horses

 

[prasercat]

I did that with crowbars and two thirteen year-old kids. 10 x 20 dirt floor garage/shed. Took an afternoon and three trips to the dump.

It was a blast watching the kids go ape wild beating and tearing up on it and was all fun and games until they almost tore out the main roof beam they were standing on.

Good times!

My childhood suburban row-house (twin-home) backed a field and then beyond that a quarry where many people dumped lumber and a variety of construction scraps. Beyond that was an extensive Park system where I spent much of my childhood with outdoor activities.

Anyway, one of our (me and my friends) favorite activities was collecting lumber and hauling it by hand to the field behind our homes during the late spring to build a club-house (I was normally the project manager and architect). We had the nails and the hammers - that was all we needed.

Mostly, the clubhouses were small ranches, and sometimes two story structures or even tree houses. When the winter came, we used the field for sledding and tobogganing and demolished our clubhouse to feed our bon-fires at night to keep us warm (not to mention the jiffy pop, toasted marshmallows and throwing an occasional aerosol can in the fire).

It was basically like playing with legos or lincoln logs, but on a more human scale - way more fun and more useful.

So the cycle was construction in the spring and demolition in the winter - Good times indeed!

 

[prasercat]

since when? Maybe I should rent out my barns for living quarters

and your OP said nothing about an attached patio

I think the owner liked horses and when the subject was built in 1950 the area was much more rural; although, a 7,000 sq.ft. lot isn't suitable for horses.

The loafing shed design (not entirely) was just being cute or something. But, remember, this is a small lot subdivision, not a rural property where an actual loafing shed would be used. The wagon wheels, one at each end - like a small fence attached to the two front posts is another equestrian accent. I only stated that it looked similar to a loafing shed, not that it WAS a loafing shed.

 

[ctapraser]

I called a demo company that deals in "no job is too small" and I'm not sure they are going to come through with an estimate in time. It looks like a 250 sq.ft. loafing shed where there are no horses (maybe when they first built the house in the 50's it was used for this purpose). It is dilapidated and M&S doesn't have anything reliable here.

If the slab was left intact (because its in very good condition - not even one hairline crack). How would you guesstimate a demo & removal?

Small equipment could drive back into the yard (its a small lot - a fraction of an acre) and level, easy access.

I think a larger project would be easier to calculate, it is because it is so small that I'm having trouble.

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated!

I'm guessing dump fees of $150 -$200, Two Guys with Saws, Hammers, Crowbars, 4 hours each = 8 Man hours @ $50/hour = $400 in labor, Trip Fees $100 (to site and dump) = $700 subtotal + 10% contingency = $770 or $800 Total (rounded)

Terrel, an outdoor covered patio is a livable space. The design, which is mostly a roof over slab and fully open on two sides , with a couple closets at the back, is functionally not much different than a detached covered patio.

But even if that wasn't the case, then, you would have just recommened painting the interior and exterior of the rotten collapsing structure to comply with the other safety issues but the collapsing portion of the safety issue could be ignored because you could deem it not a living area in the subject yard?

I'm not trying to be a smarty pants here, I would have been much happier to concentrate on the appraising rather than feeling shackled by FHA/HUD protocols and making demands, if there was some sort of FHA/HUD loophole.

Other logical choices, especially after speaking with the homeowner (like reconstructing the shed was not even a consideration for her), were and are not apparent to me.

No fair,

It went from a detached backyard loafing shed to an attached covered patio, livable space?

 

[prasercat]

No fair,

It went from a detached backyard loafing shed to an attached covered patio, livable space?

No, "detached" is what I said, Terrel said "Attached".

Ok, I should have been more clear, like: "It is a detached wood covered patio on slab that has a wall at the back and one side, with a couple small closets, but really looks like a loafing shed in design, where humans, instead of horses, are the loafers, loafing around in the structure, and which could easily accomodate patio furniture.

I really wasn't focused on the FHA/HUD aspect, just the demo aspect in the beginning of the thread.