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Distance Education vs Classroom - Your opinion?

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I wonder if we could get our states to recognize our online time on the forum as CE? It is definitely more educational than many of the "classes" I have attended.
Mell.
 
Never having taken an online course, I must turn down this question due to the Competency Rule.
 
Major mistake to allow online credit. How many appraisers would just fly through it just to get the c.e. out of the way? Probably the same ones who believe in quantity over quality. I like the way Mr. Clark sums it up. Not to blow smoke, but I have taken quite a few of Mr. Clark's classes and he does an excellent job. Keeps the subject interesting. 8)
 
Major mistake to allow online credit. How many appraisers would just fly through it just to get the c.e. out of the way? Probably the same ones who believe in quantity over quality. I like the way Mr. Clark sums it up. Not to blow smoke, but I have taken quite a few of Mr. Clark's classes and he does an excellent job. Keeps the subject interesting. 8)
 
Red,

There is some recent literature out about learing styles.
This is way oversimplifed, but the theory goes that some are "auditory" learners. They tned sit in the front of a class and learn best from a lecturer. (That's me). Others are "kinetic" learners who need to hands-on taking apart and puting back together. Etc., Etc. The point is that on-line may be perfect for some folks. I hear a lot of folks suggest that something be mandatory because that's the way they did it, but that is not necessarily the best way for everyone.

Even though I learn best from listening, I am not THAT bad at reading. I get as much out of regular reading of The Journal of Real Estate Research, Urban Land Institute stuff, old editions of The Appraisal Jounal (the more recent ones are too esoteric), etc. I don't appraiser HUD, but heck, I can just download the guidelines and read them. I don't really need to pay people for a classroom so that they can give me a piece of paper that says I read them.

Since very little CE is on the topics that interest me, the on-line courses are the fastest and cheapest way to solve the problem. Usually I can whip through 7 hour courses in a fraction of that time because I already had that material 1,000 times.

As a person who learns best in the classroom, I see that setting as largely unecessary for CE - and I am not convinced that the CE requirement accoplishes its intended goal anyway.

I get plenty of CE by reading this forum.
 
Ji Folks,

Very interesting thread. Like Don, I am also an instructor. Good instructors work very hard. I was very surprised after doing my first clesses many years ago- I was actually physically tired. Until you do it, it is hard to explain.

On line CE will be come a reality no matter what we say or do. Frankly, I think it is fine for some courses and a horrible thought for others. For some things, like FHA guidelines, it could work well- especially if it is held via a webcast where students could ask questions and get answers in nearly real time. For others, like the NAIFA 1.2 course in Market Data Anaylsis, it just will not work. I'll give you an example:

When I teach that course (and it is very complicated), I warn my students that for the first 3 days they will simply not understand much of what is going on- just the nature of the material. But, I promise them that the morning of the 4th day- before the exam, all the lightbulbs will come on. It is true. I can actually see in the student's eyes when he/she begins to understand all the interrelationships. Big grins and sparkling eyes. But, there are usually one or two students who still struggle. I can see it in their eyes. Then I can concentrate on bringing them up to speed.

I have never had a failure in any of the sessions of this course. I do not think that could happen without the face to face exchange.

For the instructor, the biggest thrill is when a student comes up afterwards and tells you that they really enjoyed your course and learned a lot. Most of us lose money when we teach compared to what we could earn doing appraisals. But the good ones keep on doing it because they love it and it helps to raise the level of performance for the profession.

So, take your on line courses when you must, but be picky about the subject matter and go toa live presentation whenever you can.

Brad
 
Brad,

You touch on a subject near and dear to my heart. My teaching was college level, with some substituting in secondary school. I always took the position with the students that any competent instructor could tell who 'got it' and who didn't .. that the tests and exams were only there for the purpose of showing the students what they did or didn't understand ..

Time and again I could predict their test performance. And got where the first five minutes of any class had pretty well sorted out the losers from the winners and the middle ground ..
 
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Brad:

Exactly. Not only can you spot those who "get it" or don't get it, you can spost those who do not care, and once in awhile, a trouble maker. I have only had to have one student removed from a classroom since 1984, but it does happen probably at least once to all of us. Usually a trouble maker can be isolated, or the rest of the students will simply shun them and they have no effect on the class. It is a personal joy and accomplishment to have students "get it", to see the light come on,and to receive the personal handshake and thank you at the end of a session. That is why I do it. Money is simply to offset the loss I take in being away from my business and teaching the course.

Tired :?: Man, I still get dog tired by the end of the day. At 65.5 years I usually just have a light dinner and go to bed. If it is the end of the 2nd day and I have a long drive home, I usually have to pull off the road 2-3 times and walk a few minuites. But---it is still worth it. Have taught seminars/courses after having had 2 root canals in the AM, a low back strain, the Flu, laryngitis, gout, etc. (Not all in 1 day of course :lol:

It is still worth it. Looking forward to my first event this month.

Don
 
I've never had a boring class from Holloway's Institute in Lansing Michigan. Although I distinctly resemble the basement/cave dweller description, and would most likely take my class online if it were available, the discourse among peers is a very valuable benefit of the classroom.

So, how about an internet classroom with a format like this forum?

The text could be delivered in chapters, with forum type discussion amongst the participants, moderated by the instructor? Make us all happy, and we could "attend" at 3 AM if we wanted. :)
 
Hve no intention f doig an on lin corse, I need the interplay of felo assoc that can learn me how to spel and rite.

Red, I think it's important to learn from others, not just the teacher; I would really like to see a course done in the field, a full day course and you could pick up 12 credit hours. Actually a 2 day course would be great; 1 day with a typical house and the second day with a run down "Forclosure". Actually, it should be a four day course once every three years, 1 Field Day & Next day actual work up; 1 Field Day & next day work up; that would fun & educational all at once 8)
 
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