Do You Have Copies Of Your Appraisals?

[Dee Dee]

Danielle,
If someone is offended they shouldn't be. The whole point of this thread is to encourage trainees to think about how this could come back to haunt them.

Half of the respondents have no idea if their reports have been altered into something that no longer resembles what they sent to their supervisor, and somebody based a major financial decision on it. Their name may be on that report....or they may not be mentioned on it at all. How would they know if they never see the final report?

Some states are tougher than others when it comes to auditing, but that could change. Quite frankly, I hope it does. Not because I want to hurt trainees, but because supervisors need to get their act together. If they can send a copy to the client, they sure as heck can easily send one to the trainee. The fact that they don't is suspicious all by itself, IMO.

 

[Kate]

Quite frankly, I hope it does. Not because I want to hurt trainees, but because supervisors need to get their act together.

In the last class I took the instructor asked the class,"How many mistakes do you all think trainee's make?"

The class roared with laughter. Answers like, too many to count, endless, ext.

The instructor said, "Nope you are all wrong. Trainee's don't make mistakes. Supervisors make mistakes or they don't catch mistakes"

He then went on to explain how they are cracking down on supervisors.

 

[Jon Liberatore]

I will have to disagree with chuck, to get credit for the hours your name does not have to be on the report now. Remember trainees have to have a minimum of 2 years with a trainee license now. In two years trainees can easily log over 3500 hrs which means the state knows you have a trainee license for more than 18 months.

My state wont ask questions or ask for proof now that is why the 2 year standard was put into action. A trainee was invovled with this appraisal is all that needs to be reported.

 

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

to get credit for the hours your name does not have to be on the report now.

Please make sure when things like this are posted that everyone knows this is a STATE SPECIFIC item.

This quote DOES NOT apply in Florida and Florida is auditing those logs!

 

[Lobo Fan]

They did an audit of my log book and I had to show where my name appeared on some reports. You do not have to sign eacah one, but your name must appears somewhere along with a description of the tasks performed.

New Mexico only requires the 2000 hours for licensing and the 2500 hours plus the two years for resdidential certified.

 

[TEL2002]

Jon, if that is the case in MD, then those reports that do not contain the name of the trainee are NOT USPAP compliant.

I will have to disagree with chuck, to get credit for the hours your name does not have to be on the report now. Remember trainees have to have a minimum of 2 years with a trainee license now. In two years trainees can easily log over 3500 hrs which means the state knows you have a trainee license for more than 18 months.

My state wont ask questions or ask for proof now that is why the 2 year standard was put into action. A trainee was invovled with this appraisal is all that needs to be reported.

 

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

Thanks, TE!!!!

I forgot that part since it hasn't affected me for so long.

 

[Kate]

to get credit for the hours your name does not have to be on the report now

Did you mean sign? USPAP does not require the trainee to sign the report. However the trainee must be acknowledged in the report.

If the principal appraiser signs the certification alone, the contribution of the assistant must be acknowledged (Standards Rule 2-3, 6-8, 8-3, and 10-3), and the specific tasks performed by the assistant should be clearly stated as part of the scope of work disclosure required in Standards Rule 2-2(a)(vii), (B)(vii), or ©(vii); 6-7(j), Standards Rule 8-2(a)(vii), (B)(vii), or ©(vii), or Standards Rule 10-2(a)(vii), or (B)(vii); as applicable. If both the assistant and the principal appraiser sign the certification, the principal must accept full responsibility for all aspects of the appraisal process as evidenced by the contents of the report (See the Comment to Standards Rules 2-3, 6-8, 8-3, and 10-3, as applicable). In no circumstance is it appropriate for the principal appraiser to merely sign the certification in an appraisal report prepared by an assistant.

 

[Danielle Schultz]

LOL Kate ya beat me to it. I was just looking through this vast book for the specifics!..... Guess I should have opened it on the computer and did a search! =P

 

[Kate]

Put this on your desk top or in you favorites, Danielle.

http://209.213.217.34/html/USPAP2005/toc.htm