Economic Impact Of Hurricanes

[Pittsburgh Pete]

Alvarez de Vaca described a 1527 hurricane so bad it washed inland a half league, and 2 lost shipmates so disfigured they were unrecognizable. Hurricanes have been around a long time.

Always have had them but their severity is increasing. Probably just a coincidence!

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

their severity is increasing

Not true...reading Michael Mann who claimed to have won a Nobel Prize he didn't? Try again. The damage is worse because more people are in harms way with more expensive homes and toys. But prior to satellites (~1960s-70's) the size of these events are basically antidotal when out over the ocean. The Galveston hurricane of over 100 years ago was far more intense than Harvey or Katrina. Irma is large but not really worse than a lot of other hurricanes including one in the 1920s in Miami.

PS - We just went 10 years plus without a landfall in the US...which hasn't happened before. Was that due to global cooling if warming is causing them to get worse? Of course not. There has been no study suggesting a link, not even by NOAA. It is only speculation by alarmist like Mann. Zero science support.

 

[timd354]

Always have had them but their severity is increasing. Probably just a coincidence!

That simply has no been established with any certainty.

Let's look to see what NOAA has to say on the subject: It is premature to conclude that human activities–and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming–have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/
The whole problem with the global warming issue is that the science (by many on both sides of the issue) has been completely corrupted by politics and belief (or non-belief) in man-made caused global warming has often become a matter of almost religious like faith rather than a scientific inquiry. Thus, it is very difficult to obtain an actual honest assessment regarding this issue.

 

[Meandering]

Always have had them but their severity is increasing. Probably just a coincidence!

What makes them more "severe"? The greater number of people impacted, as in over population makes storms "worse"?

List of Atlantic hurricanes in the 18th century
The Great Storm of 1703. Most powerful wind force ever experienced in modern England history and caused more death and destruction that any known storm before or after.

1713
in Currituck county, North Carolina near the Virginia-North Carolina border, where the storm surge breached the Outer Banks and opened several inlets into the Currituck Sound. William Byrd, one of the commissioners who established the Virginia-North Carolina boundary, stated "There was no tide in Currituck until 1713, when a violent storm opened a new inlet five miles south of the old one. One of the new inlets carved out by the storm became the location where the Virginia-North Carolina line begins on the Atlantic coast.[9]

Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1722. Moved through Lesser Antilles on September 11. This hurricane is the first tropical storm to strike the region for which there are adequate first-hand accounts and almost completely destroyed the city's fragile existing infrastructure. Storm made landfall in Louisiana on September 23 with 15 hours of hurricane winds and an 8-foot storm surge flooding. Hurricane force winds lasted 15 hours. In 1718, 3 feet (1m) high levees protected New Orleans from both river and tidal overflow (today they are 17 feet (5.2 m) high). The buildings in New Orleans suffered extensive destruction, though they were not of high grade construction having been hastily constructed when New Orleans was initially selected to be the capital of the Louisiana Company in 1717-18. The bayou between New Orleans and Biloxi was filled with two to three feet (0.6-0.9 m) of water as a result of the storm and all ships at port were destroyed. Rainfall and flooding were reported to have lasted for five days. This storm was responsible for moving Mobile from its old site 27 miles (43 km) north of the mouth of the Mobile River to its present-day site. This same storm likely re-curved northeast and headed into South Carolina as they reported three days of flooding rains in SC around the 27th.[14]

1743
Ben Franklin's ‘Eclipse Hurricane’ because it occurred during the night of a total lunar eclipse. First tropical storm in American history to be accurately measured with scientific instruments. Ben Franklin noted the difference in the start times the storms that started in Philadelphia and Boston and rationalized that it must have been the same storm traveling northward. This is referred as the first tangible progress towards understanding the "law of storms" [23]

The Coastal Hurricane of 1749. Severe flooding, high tides, and tree damage. Wind effects also recorded in New York City, Philadelphia, and Boston. Estimated to be one of the strongest hurricanes to hit the Mid-Altantic region, perhaps a category 4 based on recorded tidal surge. Hurricane produced a huge tidal surge of 15 feet. Responsible for creating Willoughby Spit a small area of land near Norfolk that was inside the Chesapeake Bay. Ben Franklin had this storm under watch and it helped confirm his hypothesis from the 1743 hurricane he observed that coastal storms moved from the southwest and were preceded by northeasterly winds. [24]

But parroting the party lne is more accurate.

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[Bobby Bucks]

Shortly after colonization, people tended to live on the high ground near protected harbors, now they prefer the exposed barrier islands or unprotected beach front areas with magnificent views. St Augustine's, Florida, for example, the Dons didn't settle on Vilano beach, they chose the high ground and many structures remain. Can't say the same for countless oceanfront properties all over. We can blame the National Flood Insurance Program for subsidizing those properties.

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

That simply has no been established with any certainty.

Let's look to see what NOAA has to say on the subject: It is premature to conclude that human activities–and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming–have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/
The whole problem with the global warming issue is that the science (by many on both sides of the issue) has been completely corrupted by politics and belief (or non-belief) in man-made caused global warming has often become a matter of almost religious like faith rather than a scientific inquiry. Thus, it is very difficult to obtain an actual honest assessment regarding this issue.

That wasn't my point--but I understand the knee-jerk reaction.

 

[glenn walker]

The earth has been killing man since day-one the only difference is population was low and people were not so arrogant to believe they could either predict or control the weather and there was no money to be made in the weather industry. It doesn't take a meteorologist to figure out that if 65% of your City is Below Sea Level like New Orleans your going to have a problem at some point. BUT too much money to be made in commerce so move the poor people down near the water and when they get washed out make sure each person gets a mule and 40 acres ( sorry I mean a bus ticket to nowhere )

 

[Meandering]

The earth has been killing man since day-one the only difference is population was low and people were not so arrogant to believe they could either predict or control the weather and there was no money to be made in the weather industry. It doesn't take a meteorologist to figure out that if 65% of your City is Below Sea Level like New Orleans your going to have a problem at some point. BUT too much money to be made in commerce so move the poor people down near the water and when they get washed out make sure each person gets a mule and 40 acres ( sorry I mean a bus ticket to nowhere )

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

The earth has been killing man since day-one the only difference is population was low and people were not so arrogant to believe they could either predict or control the weather and there was no money to be made in the weather industry. It doesn't take a meteorologist to figure out that if 65% of your City is Below Sea Level like New Orleans your going to have a problem at some point. BUT too much money to be made in commerce so move the poor people down near the water and when they get washed out make sure each person gets a mule and 40 acres ( sorry I mean a bus ticket to nowhere )

Figures Marion would like a distorted post such as this one. No one believes man can "control" the weather but only a moron would assume that man has no impact on the environment and thereby the weather. It isn't arrogant to acknowledge that man impacts the climate and the environment. It would be arrogant to assume that man can "control" it but as far as I know no one has every made that contention.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Always have had them but their severity is increasing. Probably just a coincidence!

Many claims about hurricanes and global warming. Unfortunately, there is no correlation much less cause and effect. Probably just a coincidence.