Engineers cert and date of engineers inspection

[KYLECODY]

So on all FHA manufactured we make them subject to an engineers cert stating the foundation meets HUD guidelines. Is there a specific date how far back these are valid for? Havent looked too hard but cant find a definitive answer.

I just received a cert stating the foundation met HUD guidelines from an engineers cert in 2006...Now the tie downs, leveling, other nonsense could have changed in the past 15 years...I can't imagine this would be satisfactory?

 

[Dublin ohio]

So on all FHA manufactured we make them subject to an engineers cert stating the foundation meets HUD guidelines. Is there a specific date how far back these are valid for? Havent looked too hard but cant find a definitive answer.

I just received a cert stating the foundation met HUD guidelines from an engineers cert in 2006...Now the tie downs, leveling, other nonsense could have changed in the past 15 years...I can't imagine this would be satisfactory?

Do you have any reason to think anything has changed? If it was done "right" in 2006. Why would it not be the same now. Would you have the same questions for a foundation on a stick build home built in 2006?

 

[TerryRohrer]

I can't see where this is an appraiser's problem. I would just require the cert and let the lender do what the lender will do.

 

[KYLECODY]

Do you have any reason to think anything has changed? If it was done "right" in 2006. Why would it not be the same now. Would you have the same questions for a foundation on a stick build home built in 2006?

You've never had tie downs break or have the engineer state it needs to be re-leveled to comply? Ive had this come up numerous times. These things shift and change. Tie downs don't last forever. Above is correct though, its not my issue.

 

[Dublin ohio]

You've never had tie downs break or have the engineer state it needs to be re-leveled to comply?

Never

These things shift and change. Tie downs don't last forever.

Can't argue that point. But my point remains. Do you have any reason to suspect a problem with your subject. Other than you have seen it before. Which would require an extraordinary assumption. I have seen stick built houses with foundation problems. Should I suspect other homes have same problem because I have seen it before. Just sayin'

 

[TerryRohrer]

My brother purchased a HUD repo that was only about 10 years old at the time. The new engineer required additional piers and tie-downs be added before it would qualify, so I would not assume anything about a prior certification, nor would I assume liability for anyone else.

 

[Jerry Bone Jr]

This was the old way of doing things.



The new 4000.1 does not require an Engineering Cert.

 

[KYLECODY]

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[glenn walker]

So on all FHA manufactured we make them subject to an engineers cert stating the foundation meets HUD guidelines. Is there a specific date how far back these are valid for? Havent looked too hard but cant find a definitive answer.

I just received a cert stating the foundation met HUD guidelines from an engineers cert in 2006...Now the tie downs, leveling, other nonsense could have changed in the past 15 years...I can't imagine this would be satisfactory?

on FHA A new one as thats 16 years old and things can shift or move. Then leave it in the lenders court they order it not you and if they want use one from 2006 so be it. Now it's in the FHA Underwriters lap not yours.
We had one that less than 4 years later it had to have some work done to get it re-leveled etc.

 

[KYLECODY]

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This was the old way of doing things.


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The new 4000.1 does not require an Engineering Cert.

Going back to this searching for a definitive answer on a new assignment before calling FHA. Confirmed we still DO need to condition each FHA manfd home to a structural engineers inspection and cert. Its page 590 on the updated Handbook. The 2021 update didn't change the below.


k. Foundation (09/14/2015)
The Appraiser must examine the foundation for readily observable evidence of safety or
structural deficiencies that may require repair. If a deficiency is noted, the Appraiser must
describe the nature of the deficiency and report necessary repairs, alterations or required
inspections in the appraisal where physical deficiencies or adverse conditions are reported.
For Manufactured Housing, the appraisal must be conditioned upon the certification of an
engineer or architect that the foundation is in compliance with the Permanent Foundations
Guide for Manufactured Housing (PFGM)