FNMA bedroom definition

[sputnam]

It wasn't to make better appraisals. Fannie's end game is to standardize the measurements for their AI database. It was for Fannie's interest, not ours.

Which is EXACTLY what I said.

 

[ucbruin]

Of course you do... disagreeing with forumites appears to be your schtick... however, depending on the configuration of a dwelling... significant errors are possible when rounding dimensions to the nearest whole. Whole foot is what most assessors do... and the Forum is full of appraisers talking about inaccuracies in tax records.

Don't take it personal....
I don't take your opinions personal....

 

[sputnam]

Don't take it personal....
I don't take your opinions personal....

I don't take it personally. I simply notice that you rarely, if ever, add anything to the threads. You just disagree.

 

[Carnivore]

This may have already been posted for minimum Bedroom size

I recall HUD being 70sf

IPMC, also known as the International Property Maintenance Code, includes

The rules set out by IPMC are more specific that many other regulations:

• All bedrooms with one person should have at least 70 square feet.
• Shared bedrooms must have at least 50 square feet per person.
• Kitchens and other non-habitable rooms cannot be used as a bedroom.
• Every unit should have an overall occupant limitation based on its overall size:
  • 1-2 occupants: must have at least 120 square feet living room
  • 3-5 occupants: must have at least 120 square feet living room and 80 square feet dining room
  • 6 or more occupants: must have at least 150 square feet living room and 100 square feet dining room

https://rentprep.com/blog/tenant-sc...edrooms with one person,be used as a bedroom.

 

[ucbruin]

I don't take it personally. I simply notice that you rarely, if ever, add anything to the threads. You just disagree.

I share my opinion when I disagree....
I don't always find the need to express my opinion when I agree with a post....
What would be the point....

 

[ccpanel]

I'm sure it's been posted, but I can't find a specific answer to this:

Can a bedroom lack a door (for privacy)? ANSI doesn't seem to care, but I'm more concerned with FNMA.
Thanks all!

BEDROOM;
Entrance: A bedroom needs at least two methods of egress, so it should be accessible from the house (commonly through a door), and then have one other exit (window or door).
Ceiling Height: A bedroom ceiling needs to be at least 7ft tall. It’s okay if some portions of the ceiling are below this level, but at least 50% of the ceiling needs to be a minimum of 7ft in height. (R305.1).
Escape: A bedroom must have one other method of egress beyond the entrance point. A door to the exterior works as an exit point, and so does a window. According to the International Residential Code, a bedroom window can be between 24 and 44 inches from the floor, and it needs at least 5.7 square feet for the opening, and it must measure no less than 24 inches high and 20 inches wide (R310.1).
Size: The room should be at least 70 sq. ft., and more specifically the room cannot be smaller than 7 feet in any horizontal direction

B4-1.3-05, Improvements Section of the Appraisal Report (09/06/2023)

This topic contains information on reviewing the Improvements section of the appraisal report form, including:

www.fanniemae.com

Gross Living Area:
For consistency in the sales comparison analysis, the appraiser should compare above-grade areas to above-grade areas and below-grade areas to below-grade areas. The appraiser may need to deviate from this approach if the style of the subject property or any of the comparables does not lend itself to such comparisons. For example, a property built into the side of a hill where the lower level is significantly out of ground, the interior finish is equal throughout the house, and the flow and function of the layout is accepted by the local market, may require the gross living area to include both levels. However, in such instances, the appraiser must be consistent throughout the appraisal in his or her analysis and explain the reason for the deviation, clearly describing the comparisons that were made.

B4-1.4-14 https://www.fanniemae.com/content/guide/sel011713.pdf
A level is considered below-grade if any portion of it is below-grade—regardless of the quality of its finish or the window area of any room. A walk-out basement with finished rooms would not be included in the above-grade room count.
Appraisers may deviate from this approach if the style of the subject property or any of the comparables does not lend itself to such comparisons. However, in such instances, the appraiser must explain the reason for the deviation and clearly
describe the comparisons that were made.

Egress Window Requirements | IRC Code for Fire Safety

Egress window requirements ensure that homes meet the International Residential Code for fire safety exits in basement level living spaces. Read more here.

www.egresswindows.com

IRC 2015 Egress Window Requirements
The bottom of the egress window opening can’t exceed 44” from the finished floor.
The minimum opening area of the egress window is 5.7 square feet.
The minimum egress window opening height is 24” high.
The minimum egress window opening is 20” wide.
The egress window must have a glass area of not less than 8% of the total floor area of room(s) for which it is servicing, to allow the minimum amount of sufficient natural light. *
The egress window must have a opening area of not less than 4% of the total floor area of room(s) for which it is servicing, to allow the minimum amount of natural ventilation. *
* Multiple windows can be used to service a single area where one window does not meet these percentages of total floor area. As long as the totaled amounts from this combination of windows meet or exceed the 8% for natural light and 4% for natural ventilation.

a basement room with only a door can NOT be a bedroom by definition.

 

[glenn walker]

If I take the doors off my Truck its still a Chevy Truck Not A Jeep-But some on here would call it a Jeep because it had no doors- A Bedroom missng a door is still a bedroom missing a door-it's not a dining room-or a retreat it just a bedroom where you hang a door and be done LMAO

 

[Fernando]

This may have already been posted for minimum Bedroom size

I recall HUD being 70sf

IPMC, also known as the International Property Maintenance Code, includes

The rules set out by IPMC are more specific that many other regulations:

• All bedrooms with one person should have at least 70 square feet.
• Shared bedrooms must have at least 50 square feet per person.
• Kitchens and other non-habitable rooms cannot be used as a bedroom.
• Every unit should have an overall occupant limitation based on its overall size:
  • 1-2 occupants: must have at least 120 square feet living room
  • 3-5 occupants: must have at least 120 square feet living room and 80 square feet dining room
  • 6 or more occupants: must have at least 150 square feet living room and 100 square feet dining room

https://rentprep.com/blog/tenant-sc...edrooms with one person,be used as a bedroom.

I wonder if I can use your criteria in limiting large number of family members in renting my units in the future.
Less people, less wear and tear.

 

[ucbruin]

@Terrel L. Shields

"Rounding does not make the GLA off by 20%. Any half azzt appraiser ought to be able to see if a house has been mismeasured when the SF is suspect without a tape."

Tread lightly big fella....

 

[Zoe]

If I take the doors off my Truck its still a Chevy Truck Not A Jeep-But some on here would call it a Jeep because it had no doors- A Bedroom missng a door is still a bedroom missing a door-it's not a dining room-or a retreat it just a bedroom where you hang a door and be done LMAO

Yeah, I mean at worst..... call it curable functional obsolescense that can be cured for like $200 or less if you do it yourself or probably $300 max if you hire someone. I can't see the cost to cure being over $400 max unless you are putting up an antique solid wood hand carved door. Now if it was a safe room or storm room, it might be way more to cure it.

Front doors to the home would be more expensive to cure and would be required in most all jurisdictions with code enforcement. Human services might be concerned if different sex children are exposed to things they shouldn't be exposed to on a bedroom door. If it is the front door to the house that is missing, the lender won't approve it. It will be subject to instead of as is.