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Functional Obsolescence on Outbuilding

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Though some women could use the workshop too just saying-
I have seen several sewing "She Sheds" over the years. This one was a quilter who, along with a daughter made quilts and were very handsome quilts at that...not cheap either. The quilt isn't in this building but another lady quilter had a dedicated room for quilting.
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And wives love it cause it gets their man out of the house and out their hair !!

Though some women could use the workshop too just saying-
If wife's love it why are they always coming into the shop or garage to see what your up too ? Myself and Uncle Billy could inside all day long and never see her face but 30 minutes into or man cave and her head was popping in very hour on the clock.--Billy said they hate to see a man be happy or have any fun : ) LOL
 
How many garages are actually used to store the car? Can you store the same stuff in the outbuilding as the garage? Old time garages had two doors you had to swing open to get the car in, similar to the use of a sliding door in a pole building. Depends what it can be used for and what amenities it has. Some outbuildings can be worth more than the house in market value though most mortgage companies will not accept that. In rural areas an outbuilding may have functional depreciation because its doors are too small for modern machinery, but they still have a storage and utility value.

Find some lot sales with outbuildings, there are a few, subtract the lot value (from local lot sales without improvements to bet an outbuilding per square foot. You will often find the value of an outbuilding is worth far more than you actually credit it with as a marginal adjustment in a grid. If it is falling down or missing siding or roof parts a cost to remove might be optimal negative value.
 
I have seen several sewing "She Sheds" over the years. This one was a quilter who, along with a daughter made quilts and were very handsome quilts at that...not cheap either. The quilt isn't in this building but another lady quilter had a dedicated room for quilting.
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T- what's the typical value of these "she-sheds" in your area? Is this one made out of metal?
 
T- what's the typical value of these "she-sheds" in your area? Is this one made out of metal?
If less than 20 years, typically they bring about $10-20/SF. I priced a 42' x 60' 10' wall shop with door on each end and concrete for $45,000 + concrete (about $5/SF) not too many months ago - direct bid from the builder. No insulation, black iron frame, colored metal clad and one side door. The one above has electricity and is wood frame on concrete slab and is insulated conventional with metal siding, single pane windows.
 
.............. but has a 36'x24' outbuilding. Most other comparables within the market area have attached/detached garages for car storage. The subject's outbuilding has a sliding barn door that is not suitable for easy car storage, so I would not be able to substitute it for a garage. I am able to bracket the outbuilding with only one comparable that is located within the market area but outside the village limits.

I've been taught that an item is functionally obsolete when the cost to replace is more than its contributing value. Are there other reasons why an item can be functionally obsolete?
You have multiple issues here, but nothing that cannot easily be solved.

First of all, your outbuilding is smaller than most typical outbuildings. The most common sized outbuilding (pole barn typically) is 30' x 40' followed by 40' x 60'. Your building absolutely could be a substitute for a garage although with functional obsolescence (FO).

As to bracketing, is the house with an outbuilding comparable or are you throwing that in just to bracket for bracketing sake? Bracketing is a nice concept but I rarely worry about it at all.

Your outbuilding isn't functionally OBSOLETE, it has some obsolescence which is a completely different thing. Let use consider that there are degrees of FO. A garage or outbuilding without a pedestrian door is very minor obsolescence. Your building with a sliding door is more obsolescence but that does not make it OBSOLETE.

If you take your subject house, it has FO but is not OBSOLETE. No one is going to build that 1950s house today as it is built so it has some FO but the improvements still contribute to the market. Your barn also contributes but no one would build it the same today thus SOME FO.

FO can also be an over-improvement. Let us say that you have a house on five acres and they have a brand new 60' x 80' pole barn. The market only wants a 30' x 40' or at most 40' x 60'. Because if is bigger and the market does not desire a 4,800 SF barn it has FO as it is too big and maybe too nice. The market is only willing to pay for a 1,200 SF barn and thus you have FO.

Final thoughts on this. If your outbuilding is a pole barn they have a shorter physical life than a typical garage. Did you check to see if it had cement flooring? Almost all outbuildings with OHDs have cement flooring while in my experience there are many outbuildings with barn doors that do not have cement flooring.

Where are you at in Michigan? I am in Monroe and cover Monroe, part of Lenawee and a sliver of Washtenaw. I am a CG with an SRA and do a mixture of residential, farm and commercial.
 
If less than 20 years, typically they bring about $10-20/SF. I priced a 42' x 60' 10' wall shop with door on each end and concrete for $45,000 + concrete (about $5/SF) not too many months ago - direct bid from the builder. No insulation, black iron frame, colored metal clad and one side door. The one above has electricity and is wood frame on concrete slab and is insulated conventional with metal siding, single pane windows.

Wow, I just ran a cost on a shed with similar dimensions that you mentioned with an Arkansas zip code through dwelling cost and came with the same number you said. No interior finish and no electrical basic quality. Does this seem about right? I am trying to see how accurate these costs from DC are.


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I've been taught that an item is functionally obsolete when the cost to replace is more than its contributing value.
That's more physical depreciation than functional. Personally, I think that in rural areas pole barns have equal, often superior, value to a garage.

Thats where old men hide from wives and girfreinds and hide their secret stanches of hootch and other nefarious activities that will get them in trouble :)

My pole 32' x 40' pole barn/shop with wood stove/old Marantz stereo with JBL speakers, and an old couch is about 200' from the house, far enough that my wife doesn't often visit. But she knows that my "helpers" are always on my workbench....Hey, you have to be ready to entertain when the guys from the neighborhood without barns stop by to get away from their wives.

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Wow, I just ran a cost on a shed with similar dimensions that you mentioned with an Arkansas zip code through dwelling cost and came with the same number you said. No interior finish and no electrical basic quality. Does this seem about right? I am trying to see how accurate these costs from DC are.
I'm seeing similar numbers in this area. $20/sq.ft. for basic metal pole barn, sliding door, 14' side walls, wood frame with wood trusses.

Add elec., concrete, site work, driveway, $30/sf is a close number. I know a guy that has WELL over $100K in a new 40' x 60' barn. It is VERY nice.
 
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