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If you're in the stock market right now, you were probably in the real estate market in 2006, expecting the market to continue to increase.
 
I found an interesting article yesterday on taxes that answers the question of the raise taxes/looter crowd. Something happened to my Explorer9 program and I cannot post for some reason so I am using firefox. Now I can’t find the article but here is the crux of the facts.
The argument by the looters is that we need to raise taxes on the rich. These ratios are approximate from memory unless someone runs up on the article. If you took every penny of income from people who make over 1 million dollars a year you could not pay the national deficit for this year. That amounts to something like 2% of the total national debt.
The crux of the matter is that the debt and deficit are so far out of balance that taking 100% of the income of people making over 1 million dollars a year would not make a significant difference. There is really no argument, either shrink the government or go bankrupt. What do you think would happen if the government taxed the rich at 100% of income? How long do you think that could go on? That is like the old Army marching jingle we used to sing: “We have no corn for the horses because the officers ate the corn seeds.”
 
I found an interesting article yesterday on taxes that answers the question of the raise taxes/looter crowd. Something happened to my Explorer9 program and I cannot post for some reason so I am using firefox. Now I can’t find the article but here is the crux of the facts.
The argument by the looters is that we need to raise taxes on the rich. These ratios are approximate from memory unless someone runs up on the article. If you took every penny of income from people who make over 1 million dollars a year you could not pay the national deficit for this year. That amounts to something like 2% of the total national debt.
The crux of the matter is that the debt and deficit are so far out of balance that taking 100% of the income of people making over 1 million dollars a year would not make a significant difference. There is really no argument, either shrink the government or go bankrupt. What do you think would happen if the government taxed the rich at 100% of income? How long do you think that could go on? That is like the old Army marching jingle we used to sing: “We have no corn for the horses because the officers ate the corn seeds.”

Here is the detail tax rates over time from 1913 to present.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/fed_individual_rate_history-20110323.pdf


Here is an overview chart with a gap in time but it shows where we were at the highest rates.


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!952 was the highest marginal tax rate ever, across the spectrum of income.

Tax the rich has never been successful at generating revenues for the government. People who make that much money are not stupid and never pay those rates. They shift the source of income and location of income.
 
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When the economy grows, tax revenue grows.

Notice the personal income tax rates and tax revenues account for about 50% of total revenues.

The idea being proposed is to take away deduction and lower the tax rates. The key is the corporate income tax rate because there are trillions of dollars of income being generated overseas, paying a lower tax rate there than here.

Does anyone think taxing the rich is the way to go? :rof::rof:
 
It is noted that the top two brackets had their marginal rates more than doubled from 1930 to 1932, part of the psychotic tax the golden goose eggs strategy of class warfare.

I don't think the upper bracket job producing geese tried as hard after that change to lay more golden eggs.

Fail.
 
Let me give a couple of examples from personal experience that illustrate the negative effect of taxing the rich: Back in the 1970’s I was in the real estate business and we listed an old family business for sale. This business went back to around 1900. It was priced to sell so I got right on it. I knew this gentleman who was very wealthy. As a matter of fact, he lent me the money to buy my home at 9% interest which we paid on for 25 years. I went to see him and gave him the details of the business just knowing he would jump at the opportunity. He gave me a blank stare as if to say, so what? He had no interest at all. Why I asked? Well he said, because I am in the 70% tax bracket and any additional income I make will be taxed at over 70%. If I made a 20% profit before taxes it would only be 6% or less after taxes which puts the investment in the risky range with negative leverage. He had no interest in making any more income. The business was purchased by someone that had little equity and no knowledge of how to run the business. He got a big loan from a local bank that also did the appraisal and whose trust department was the seller. The loan officer who made the loan did the appraisal. The owner went broke, lost everything, and sued the bank for fraud because they did the appraisal and made the sale. I went to the trial. It was a farce and the bank won. Business and jobs down the tubes not to mention everything the poor guy owned.
Our local airport was once part of a large dairy farm. The city purchased the land for the airport in the 1930’s from the dairy farm leaving as a residual all of the land fronting US Hwy 58 at a PVI intersection on the eastern edge of town. This was all commercial property. During the real estate boom in the 1980/90’s this land was in high demand for commercial development. It was owned by the only living heir of the dairy farm, a lady in her 80’s. She would not sell any land because if she did so she would have a huge tax problem. But, if she held the property until her death her children could inherit it tax free. So she held it until her death. Since then the area has development with hotels, banks, fast foods, shopping centers etc with no telling how many jobs. I am sure her tax bill if she had sold while alive would have been less than a million dollars so just look at how much tax revenue was being forgone by the government holding her hostage with the tax laws. Governments probably make more in taxes every year on these new enterprises than the total tax this lady would have had to pay. The bottom line is, the tax laws screwed the government and the local economy royally.
 
Just looking at the graph of tax revenue, it appears that corporate income tax accounts for a major part of revenue. Capital gains flow through to the corporate or individual.

Here is a historical chart of tax rates (personal, corporate and capital gains):


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Looking at the graph of total tax revenue:

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Corporations have more write offs against gross revenue than individuals. Notice that there was a time when corporate tax receipts grew faster than personal income tax receipts.

Now look at this chart on corporate income taxes:


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Jobs are not growing, why is that? Could it be that corporate income taxes are too high? And states that have high corporate taxes, are they suffering?

Why is Obama wanting to trim the payroll taxes, are they too high?
 
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We just had an earth quake. The house started shaking and I thought it was coming off the foundation. I have seen the error of my ways and am living a changed life now. Raise taxes, I don't care. It is all irrelevant now. See you guys across the river in the shade of a tree.

PS: Ten minutes later. This was really strange. I had a phone call from my internet ipo and they wanted to ask some questions. Then the phone line went completely dead. Then five minutes later the earth quake hit. Then 20 minutes after the quake the phone line came back alive. This is really weird.
 
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