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My understanding is that he was born in Brazil, speaks Portugese, was raised in Miami after threats of kidnapping led his family to move out of Brazil, CURRENTLY lives in Singapore, and was naturalized as a U. S. Citizen.....this is a tax issue and reason for reform of that system more than an indictment of someone who is working the system. His expertise isn't even based in the U. S. even though the company is.
I bet you a lot of big investors in Facebook now are domiciling in Texas or Florida to escape the income tax trap....same difference. I don't blame him. ..and he still has to pay taxes on capital gains as he exits the U. S.
 
We pay our fair share RK, on this I think we agree. But someone who hits the mother lode and then runs away to a 3rd world country to miserly count his billions will reap what he sows. I was in Singapore in the early 70s when I served in the military. The tax laws may be lax, but there is far less FREEDOM than we enjoy here; such as freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion, etc. Not to mention a legal system that still inflicts corporal punishment for misdemeanor infractions such as littering,traffic violations and public intoxication. If you are curious google 'caning' and see what I am talking about.
This dude is a leech and I am happy to be rid of him, I wish we could make it so he is not allowed to invest or earn in or visit our great country ever again, but then again, our freedom only makes us stronger, his sentence is the remainder of his life without the freedom he left behind. God Bless the United States of America. and I can't believe I am saying this but....
America...Love it or leave it.
If its too expensive to live here...well don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Well, keeping people out is easy, unless you are illegal or a terrorist; just put his name on the no fly list and additionally, have the state department declare him persona non grata.

As for investment in this country, why stop with just him? Levy an investment tax and a transaction tax on all non U.S. residence.

If the U.S. can have an exit tax for people renouncing their U.S. citizenship, certainly the U.S. can have taxes on anything, foreign or domestic.

There could be a drawback, though. The U.S. is looking for suckers, I mean investors, to buy U.S. Treasury paper. woohoo
 
U.S. Millionaires Told Go Away as Tax Evasion Rule Looms

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...s-told-go-away-as-tax-evasion-rule-looms.html

That’s what some of the world’s largest wealth-management firms are saying ahead of Washington’s implementation of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, known as Fatca, which seeks to prevent tax evasion by Americans with offshore accounts. HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA), Deutsche Bank AG, Bank of Singapore Ltd. and DBS Group Holdings Ltd. (DBS) all say they have turned away business.

“I don’t open U.S. accounts, period,” said Su Shan Tan, head of private banking at Singapore-based DBS, Southeast Asia’s largest lender, who described regulatory attitudes toward U.S. clients as “Draconian.”

The 2010 law, to be phased in starting Jan. 1, 2013, requires financial institutions based outside the U.S. to obtain and report information about income and interest payments accrued to the accounts of American clients. It means additional compliance costs for banks and fewer investment options and advisers for all U.S. citizens living abroad, which could affect their ability to generate returns.

“In the long run, if Americans have less and less opportunities to invest overseas, it would be a disadvantage,” Marc Faber, the fund manager and publisher of the Gloom, Boom and Doom report, said last month in Singapore.

“Most of the hedge funds I know in Asia won’t take American clients,” said Faber.

Bank of Singapore, the private-banking arm of Oversea- Chinese Banking Corp. (OCBC), ranked strongest in the world for the last two years by Bloomberg Markets magazine, has turned away millions of dollars from Americans because it doesn’t want to deal with the regulatory hassle, according to Chief Executive Officer Renato de Guzman. The bank had $32 billion under management as of the beginning of the year.

The definition includes citizens, green-card holders and non-Americans deemed U.S. residents by being present in the country for at least 183 days over a three-year period, which makes them subject to U.S. tax on their worldwide income, according to the IRS.

Americans who don’t comply with Fatca are deemed “recalcitrant,” and income they receive from U.S. sources also is subject to a 30 percent withholding tax, said Jason Choi, a Singapore-based tax lawyer with Latham & Watkins LLP.

Renouncing citizenship is an option chosen by increasing numbers of Americans. A record 1,780 gave up their U.S. passports last year compared with 235 in 2008, the IRS reported.

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Not to worry, the poor will never leave the U.S. because they receive so many benefits.

Only the rich seem to be motivated to renounce their U.S citizenship and leave the country.

Money and wealth know no boundaries and like water, it seeks its own level flowing via the path of least resistance.
 
S&P Opens The Pandora's Box: The Wall Of Refi Worry Is $46,000,000,000,000 Tall

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/sp-opens-pandoras-box-wall-refi-worry-46000000000000-tall#comments

In what S&P calls a 'Perfect Storm', the next four years will see a minimum of $30 trillion in companies' refinancing needs related to maturing bonds and loans and further they expect $13-$16 trillion more debt will be required to finance growth. With bond portfolios over-stuffed with corporate debt (since angst over sovereign risk has skewed asset allocation away from that cohort) the rating agency is concerned that ongoing bank deleveraging, these huge debt re-funding requirements, and the diminishment of central banks and governments to do anything about it leave serious problems with a credit overhang so large.
 
I was reading Drudge Report last night and it appears that:

1. California's days are numbered. Debt jumped from 9.6 to 16 billion in April due to low tax income. They are on the cusps of insolvency.
2. Greece is insolvent.
3. Spain is going down the tubes.
4. The US is so desperate they are chasing tax payers around the world.
5. The French are headed for one final binge.
6. The French rich are moving to England.
7. The American Rich are moving to China.
8. Yada yada yada. The time draws nigh. As I have stated numerous times in this thread-watch California. That is where the first shots will be fired. What an interesting time to be alive and watch.

BROWN WARNS OF BIG CUTS...
'Worst recession since 1930s'...

Seven days that shook Europe...

Greece will 'run out of money soon'...

Thousands march against economic gloom in Spain, UK...
 
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I was reading Drudge Report last night and it appears that:

1. California's days are numbered. Debt jumped from 9.6 to 16 billion in April due to low tax income. They are on the cusps of insolvency.
2. Greece is insolvent.
3. Spain is going down the tubes.
4. The US is so desperate they are chasing tax payers around the world.
5. The French are headed for one final binge.
6. The French rich are moving to England.
7. The American Rich are moving to China.
8. Yada yada yada. The time draws nigh. As I have stated numerous times in this thread-watch California. That is where the first shots will be fired. What an interesting time to be alive and watch.

BROWN WARNS OF BIG CUTS...
'Worst recession since 1930s'...

Seven days that shook Europe...

Greece will 'run out of money soon'...

Thousands march against economic gloom in Spain, UK...

Brown has said there will be even deeper cuts, mostly to public education, if voters do not improve tax hikes in November.

I wonder if this message is to scare the unions and teachers to insure a maximum turn out to vote for a tax increase?

Old Jerry Brown can find billions of dollars to waste on a bullet train but he can't find any money to cut spending with other than education?
 
A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/b...?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120513

ADA, Ohio — Kelsey Griffith graduates on Sunday from Ohio Northern University. To start paying off her $120,000 in student debt, she is already working two restaurant jobs and will soon give up her apartment here to live with her parents. Her mother, who co-signed on the loans, is taking out a life insurance policy on her daughter.

With more than $1 trillion in student loans outstanding in this country, crippling debt is no longer confined to dropouts from for-profit colleges or graduate students who owe on many years of education, some of the overextended debtors in years past. Now nearly everyone pursuing a bachelor’s degree is borrowing. As prices soar, a college degree statistically remains a good lifetime investment, but it often comes with an unprecedented financial burden.

Ninety-four percent of students who earn a bachelor’s degree borrow to pay for higher education — up from 45 percent in 1993, according to an analysis by The New York Times of the latest data from the Department of Education. This includes loans from the federal government, private lenders and relatives.

The current balance of federal student loans nationwide is $902 billion, with an additional $140 billion or so in private student loans.

Mr. Date likened excessive student borrowing to risky mortgages. And as with the housing bubble before the economic collapse, the extraordinary growth in student loans has caught many by surprise. But its roots are in fact deep, and the cast of contributing characters — including college marketing officers, state lawmakers wielding a budget ax and wide-eyed students and families — has been enabled by a basic economic dynamic: an insatiable demand for a college education, at almost any price, and plenty of easy-to-secure loans, primarily from the federal government.

Of course, economists and many parents say that the only thing worse than graduating with lots of debt is not going to college at all, since study after study has shown that graduates earn more over a lifetime.

Nearly one in 10 borrowers who started repayment in 2009 defaulted within two years, the latest data available — about double the rate in 2005.

Still, economists say, growing student debt hangs over the economic recovery like a dark cloud for a generation of college graduates and indebted dropouts. A study of recent college graduates conducted by researchers at Rutgers University and released last week found that 40 percent of the participants had delayed making a major purchase, like a home or car, because of college debt, while slightly more than a quarter had put off continuing their education or had moved in with relatives to save money. Roughly half of the surveyed graduates had a full-time job.

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Talking about mortgaging the future and being a debt slave, the value of education will be stigmatized in years to come. A prime argument for higher education is higher income with job security than without that college degree, which translates into a better life.

Anyone believe that will be the case for these millions of college graduates? :rof:
 
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/california-facing-higher-16-billion-shortfall-213905732--finance.html[/URL]
Here is a more in depth article that should arouse even the die-hards loons out there. In summary, here is what the Governor’s priorities are. Just read the article.
Imagine California is a ship at sea and the ship is sinking. What does the Gov/Captain order the crew to do? Simple- throw over board all the children, college students, public safety personal, courts, elderly, and the sick. That way the ship’s crew, state employees active and retired employees can get the life boats and remain safe.
Read it for yourself. Not one word about cutting anything but what I just mentioned. If anyone can’t see this for what it is, then they deserve to be thrown overboard. California is not a state, it is a crime syndicate. Brown is the boss of bosses and the wise guys are public employees. Anyone got a problem with dat? I hope the tax measure does pass. Maybe if the people of California get burned really badly the lesson will burn the experience into the public conscience for decades to come.
I can visualize California with no state government. Just a gaggle of local city/regional tribal communities ruled over by local war lords.
 
People have called this the "Great Recession"....excuse me but isn't a recession simply a downturn in the economy and generally only lasts a couple of quarters? And that after then, it's not a recession? .... AND, a DEPRESSION is a long - term economic event.
The scenario 80 years ago was Coolidge regulated nothing while the economy boomed. Hoover took over as a crisis loomed. Hoover was unable to turn the ship around and Roosevelt defeated him 4 years later. He shuttered the banks and "stress tested" them. As for Tax policy, Trade barriers hurt rather than protect the economy. The economy got no better but was stimulated by handing out Bonds to WWI vets, only to have the economy slide after a massive entitlement program (Soc. Security) passed. 12 years after the initial stock market slump, the economy regained its footing as a wartime economy.

Some would say we are ready for that "wartime economy". It was 12 years since the dot com bubble burst again just as Clinton left office. I tend to think of that as a simple "recession" and that 2008 was the "real" depression. Recessions are events that generally occur at least once in the tenure of a 2 term President.

If so, it is deja vu.. as Bush(/or Clinton for that matter) regulated nothing while the economy boomed. Obama took over as a crisis loomed. He has been unable to turn the ship around and may be defeated because of it. The economy has got only marginally better but was stimulated by handing out taxpayer money to bank bailouts, only to have the economy slide after a massive entitlement program (Obamacare) passed. As for Tax policy, taxing offshore money and higher than world rate taxes hurt rather than protect the economy. 4? or 12? years after the initial stock market slump, ... the 4 year scenario - we have at least 8 more years of muddling thru the economy as the markets remain nearly frozen and the unemployment rate remains high. the 12 year scenario - the economy regains its footing any day now....??? I am not optimistic that the "end" is now... And 8 more years of mixed signals from Washington isn't going to change the pattern...it could drag it out a little or shorten it a little...I certainly hope it doesn't require a world war to jump start this economy.

This is a depression and regardless what any politico or congress thinks it can do, it is probably going to play out just like the 1930s and it doesn't matter who is president.
 
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