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Tax increases are an act of war

Tax increases of any kind and any amount will have no effect on the 16 trillion dollar deficit.

Tax increases are simply a way of destroying the opposition and the old economic system.
 
Tax increases are simply a way of destroying the opposition
Reagan got a modification in the tax structure, but congress would not give him the necessary cuts, so the deficit went higher. So later in his administration, when taxes were increased, the promise from Tip O'Neill was a quid pro quo. Give us the tax increase and we will cut spending. They didn't. They lied to the Republicans. Then Geo. Bush I said "No new Taxes"....then had to sign off on new taxes, making a liar out of himself and the Democrats who, once again, had promised to cut spending. It didn't happen. So now the Big O sez gimme new taxes...and you know, somewhere down the road, you'll get your cuts... maybe, well, probably not, but we will think warm thoughts about it..isn't that good enough?

I think we could run government a lot cheaper.
No foreign aid without a real quid pro quo
No featherbedding jobs.

It seems insane to me that in my state and every other state in the union, every firestation and every school and every courthouse, municipal office, whatever, is unique, special, and created without any master blueprint that encourages uniform construction.

Why isn't every fire station indistingushable from every other one. A model modular design could apply to every town in every state. And those "stock plans" would make the use of an architect unnecessary. That saves 10% off the top in my state. Same for schools. So what they are all ugly boxes? Those "ugly boxes" seem to work well for Wal-Mart's completely homely headquarters....their stores are all cookie cutters, wanna bet that saves them millions every year in cost? The builders and suppliers know exactly what it is going to look like before ever sitting foot in the town.
 
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The Epic Implosion Of The Green Energy Bubble

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/renixx-renewable-energy-index-decline-2012-12#ixzz2Egt5Ja6x

A stock index that exclusively lists renewable energy companies in down 98 percent since fall of 2008, reports The Washington Times.

The RENIXX tracks the world´s 30 largest companies in the renewable energy industry. They are given a weighting in the index is based on the market capitalization.

Companies in the index include First Solar, Suntech and Trina Solar.

The index closed last week at 159.36 points.

Compare that with its all-time high of 1918.71 in December of 2007.
 
The Epic Implosion Of The Green Energy Bubble

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/renixx-renewable-energy-index-decline-2012-12#ixzz2Egt5Ja6x

A stock index that exclusively lists renewable energy companies in down 98 percent since fall of 2008, reports The Washington Times.

The RENIXX tracks the world´s 30 largest companies in the renewable energy industry. They are given a weighting in the index is based on the market capitalization.

Companies in the index include First Solar, Suntech and Trina Solar.

The index closed last week at 159.36 points.

Compare that with its all-time high of 1918.71 in December of 2007.


It is simply the by-product of the currently controlling party in the house of reps. The party of jobs is thrusting a stake into the heart of the fledgling alternative energy fetus - They have made their strategic moves for it to perish, because they don't sanctify government intervention in the growth of any business (especially, one's that compete with the KOCH brothers and their other mega rich energy consistency). If only they could drive a stake into the Detroit auto business, which lead greatly to their failure to capture the White House. Perhaps, that will be next.

The right will lose their death grip on this industry during current administration - the pendulum is swinging.

This is certainly not the end, it is only the beginning of the inevitable demise of combusted oil over the next 10 to 20 years in my view.

However, crude oil will continue to play an important part in the raw materials for plastics and other carbon based synthetics and polymers (biodegradable forms), pharmaceuticals and chemical production. It just won't be anywhere near the current demand.
 
Democrats have dominated the white house and the senate and the legislature most of the last 2 decades. Reps can stop nothing...but even Democrats recognize that they are throwing good money after bad by promoting and picking winners...some of whom have turned out to be big time losers....

I don't know how old you are but if over 40, hydrocarbon energy will remain the dominate energy source in N. A. for your lifetime period. The "other" energy sources will continue to grow slowly and as hydrocarbons increase in price, they will be more competitive. But nothing can overcome the fact solar panels don't work after dark and windmills slaughter birds and bats. It's a choice.
 
Democrats have dominated the white house and the senate and the legislature most of the last 2 decades. Reps can stop nothing...but even Democrats recognize that they are throwing good money after bad by promoting and picking winners...some of whom have turned out to be big time losers....

I don't know how old you are but if over 40, hydrocarbon energy will remain the dominate energy source in N. A. for your lifetime period. The "other" energy sources will continue to grow slowly and as hydrocarbons increase in price, they will be more competitive. But nothing can overcome the fact solar panels don't work after dark and windmills slaughter birds and bats. It's a choice.

I disagree with that assessment. Technology builds on technology and as you know, it grows exponentially. In 50 to 100 years people will shake their heads at the idea that we used to burn carbons to create energy; kind like burning candles and torches for light - now we have Light emitting diodes and it isn't stopping there. Computers made of metal, wires and printed circuits will be a thing of the past. Nano tubes and exotic materials not used today will intelligent systems in most things we will then interact with - perhaps even our dogs will have computer chip implants that will allow them to speak, like "get off the couch you lazy beer gut and take me out for a walk - ruff!) - Ok, maybe there will be resistance to that last innovation happening.

I feel certain before I'm gone, so will be carbon fuels for combustion (even in the third world countries, since the new technologies will be cheap and renewable).

I've taken care myself, but I'm no young cat according to my prasercat calender! I'll actually be hitting 60 when Obama leaves office; however, I do believe I will witness big changes in energy in my life time (I'm thinking in the next 40 to 50 years); such as, private excursions to the moon and space, fusion energy production, intelligent and interactive clothing, cars that drive themselves on three dimensional highways, most people working from home. The end of reliance on centralized energy like we do today and a predominance of energy (and possibly waste) self sufficient systems for homes and commercial buildings.

I disagree with the idea that the government shouldn't invest in "winners". It has been doing so with a high success rate and it should continue to do so, especially where corporate monopolies would squash these innovations through their superior competitive position. Some will fail, that is the nature of business. If some didn't fail, then they would be subject to corporate welfare - that isn't the role of the government; unless of course, you have too-big to-fail. Many incubators for business are also partnerships between government, academia and the private sector. There is alot of talk about the free market; however, we don't have a free markets, so it is good there is some help for promising start-ups when it gives our country a competitive edge. It is entirely appropriate use of public funds in my opinion. If you want free markets, help pass legislation to reinstate vigorous enforcement of existing antitrust laws already on the books and then we can have a conversation about the benefits of an "essentially" free market after the large mega-corps are broken into competitive pieces.
 
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Technology builds on technology and as you know, it grows exponentially.
depending upon where they are on the curve.

In the long run, we'll all be dead.
 
Prasercat, I couldn't agree more with your article on the "green implosion." As someone who keeps an eye on the markets I remember hearing about First Solar (FSLR) everyday beating earnings and this and that and always making new highs. Now all it seems to do is make new lows somewhere in the teens. Its peak was at like $200 or something right? This sector has been decimated for it seems an endless amount of reasons.
 
It is still a sector the relies heavily on government and private subsidies. The technology is too expensive for the benefit it can provide. If the electric company sends a check, it's because the government mandates them to do it. If a large percentage of the population goes solar, it hurts the business of the electric companies who will have difficulty sending checks, when their distribution and income drops. If the technology was viable, it would not need to be subsidized. Most people recognize it and see it as a fad. Should subsidizes stop in 5 or 10 years, what will be the cost to repair or replace the panels that are already out there, and how will the owners be able to recoup the costs if the subsides drop? How many solar companies will still be in business when the subsidizes stop? We all lived through this in the 1970s and many of those that had solar panels did not keep them, and now are supposed to believe it will be different on this go round?

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I have to agree with Marion that these technologies seemingly require subsidy.

I disagree with the idea that the government shouldn't invest in "winners". It has been doing so with a high success rate
I am not so concerned about the government investing in "winners". It is the losers they invest in that hurts us all and at taxpayer expense. It's the moral hazard thing. You roll double or nothing and if you win you cash in, and if you lose, the taxpayer picks up the pieces... As for the "high rate of success" the rate is fairly low and the beneficiaries more often than not are the
corporate monopolies ...[with] their superior competitive position
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Plowing money into a losing technology is a disaster and sucks investment away from those technologies that would be truly competitive otherwise.

WalMart did not start with government assistance. Remember when everyone said Sears was going to crush WalMart? Who crushed who? In 1973 which one would you have bet on? The same one that the government would have - Sears.
 
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